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  • Leanne788
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    Saeah, my puppy, Luna looks so similar to yours! Especially with the curled tail. I've been wondering if mine is a Kelpie as well. The shelter guessed her as a "German Shepherd/Lab" mix but I truly don't believe it is with her size. How big/how much does yours weigh? I'm attaching a picture of mine. I will say, I think mine has a shorter/smaller head/snout than yours. IMG_1421.jpg IMG_1421.jpg

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  • Lovemesomekelpies
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    Hey I'm pretty sure it's a kelpie. Looks like my kelpie cross Queensland heeler

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  • Hyacinth
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    Heelers like to bite ankles and stalk from behind. Border collies like to cut you off in front. Kelpies do whatever works...

    I'd be a bit careful of letting him do anything that you don't want to see long term - like dashing around the room in circles - that could lead to wear pattern in the floor for starters, and in the back yard - quite a deep track. Not to mention a dog that has obsessive habits.

    If you took him out to a park where there are joggers or cyclists - does he fix them with a solid stare from a distance? that's preherding prelaunch mode. If you want to do herding - that needs to be on permission/cue only. Otherwise you need to give him something else to do.

    One of my faves is fancy trick heelwork.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tife9bhvQDo

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  • Kalacreek
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    Sounds fairly normal although the ankle nipping could indicate some heeler/herding blood!

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  • saeah568340
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    Not sure about the chasing I always keep him on leash when I take him out because we areat the city. Here are some traits he does do:
    stand on hind legs (for a while)
    Dashes around the perimeter of the room in circles
    Tries to chase after grasshoppers and butterflys (he caught a grasshopper once)
    Bites ankles at play time
    He is a very fast learner and is at the top of his class. However he is shy around puppies (might be a shelter thing)
    I feel like these traits might be normal dog behavior but idk

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  • Hyacinth
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    This is an image search for Australian Kelpies...

    black and tan with bit of white is a fairly common colouring. At the moment the most popular colour would be the solid red = cos of Red Dog the movie...

    https://www.google.com.au/search?q=K...ralian+Kelpies

    does he like chasing things - bikes, joggers, cars, sheep, ducks... Does he like rounding stuff up? Does he stalk stuff (birds in the back yard?).

    If he is mostly farm dog mix (eg kelpie and/or australian cattle dog and or German Shepherd and or collie and or border collie) - Note Australian cattle dogs have kelpies, and border collies and scottish collies and dalmations and sometimes bull terrier in their ancestry... Kelpies and ACD sometimes have some dingo...

    If he's mostly farm dog - he will likely be super super bright. And he might use that for evil if you don't work very hard to train him some new trick every day or at least every week. Ie wear his brain out. You can take him for long walks but if you don't train his mind - you will just get super fit destructo dog.

    Kelpies here are super popular with agility people and with people who like to do herding competitions so you might want to see if there are any clubs near you.

    Also Susan Garrett has put up 4 free videos (you have to join the free agility facebook page) that will show you some of the stuff you can train.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/H360FreeAgilityWorkshop

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/H360...4933483578064/

    and look up kikopup on youtube.

    Remember - if you're not training him, he's training you.

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  • saeah568340
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    Not sure about the cattle dogs prior situation. They were all at a rescue shelter. Plus some of the cattle dogs has his coloring on their face. He is definitely a mutt, at least 4 things in there is pretty sure Shepard is there but i think kelpie too. Also there actually are kelpies and cattle dogs here they are becoming more common here in recent years.

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  • Kalacreek
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    He is probably likely to be a mix of the more common working dogs in your area. Were the cattle dogs working dogs from a farm or just roaming? Yeah I could see German shepherd possibly there

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  • saeah568340
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    Yes I think he might have some german shepard in him as well

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  • saeah568340
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    He can definetly be a mix of either smooth collie or kelpie. I have never heard of smooth collies before so there is probably alot of breeds with similar coloring and markings. I just thought kelpie because they are usually associated with austrailan cattle dogs and he was found with a bunch of them.

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  • Kalacreek
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    Originally posted by ThistleTheDog View Post
    Which dna test will you do? I think the embark is much better than the wisdom personally - it updates as more data comes in.

    I kind of want to say tricolour smooth collie cross? the the shape of his nose with it's minimal stop and the shape of his semi errect ears



    could have kelpie in him. certainly not a recent heeler x though. Be interesting to see how he grows.
    You would be surprised. I have seen quite a few heeler/ kelpie or heeler/ BC matings and sometimes the puppies will throw very definitely to one parents breed in particular. If the parents were kelpie /heeler mixes themselves it is even more likely.

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  • Kalacreek
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    Originally posted by RileyJ View Post
    LOL ‘Kalacreek’ – it is not only pugs you have to worry about ! The only problem is this OP was talking about this dog being a kelpie and not a BC !

    I really doubt there would be much or any kelpie in your dog ! If you look at the usual breeds in your area I think you will find something else that could explain the tail set on this dog !

    https://www.google.com.au/search?q=c...ih=922&dpr=1.1
    I think if can be in a Border collies it can be in a kelpie! The pug was a joke I use for the breeder. My girl comes from the best Irish ISDS and Australian working lines lol! still she has this weird tail that causes people to ask if she is a cross which she definitely isn't lol!!

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  • saeah568340
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    Never heard of that breed before he looks like that one to me especial the coloring on the back of the neck as well Thanks for your advice on the DNA testing as well!
    Last edited by saeah568340; 23-04-2017, 05:12 PM.

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  • ThistleTheDog
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    Which dna test will you do? I think the embark is much better than the wisdom personally - it updates as more data comes in.

    I kind of want to say tricolour smooth collie cross? the the shape of his nose with it's minimal stop and the shape of his semi errect ears



    could have kelpie in him. certainly not a recent heeler x though. Be interesting to see how he grows.

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  • saeah568340
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    Yes his tail is nothing like the kelpies i have seen. If he has it in him he has to be mixed. To me he does look like one though but I will post the DNA test when I do it

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