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    Hey all,
    i'm in the market for a Dobermann puppy and just wondering if anyone knew of breeders or dobes for sale in north qld? i live in cairns and would prefer to buy from nearby. Also am i dreaming when looking for one under a grand? most seem to be easily above that.
    Thanks heaps

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    under that price you will have trouble. What do you want the dog for, pure pet or do you want a working dog for sport/security. That will be a bigger decider what breeder you go for.

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    Agree with Nekhbet. Dobermans have a few known health problems as a breed so you need to buy from a breeder who is aware of these and tests for that. As someone who has visited literally dozens of different doberman breeders, they're not all the same and paying over $1500 does not guarantee that they have done the necessary health tests, but paying under $1000 almost guarantees that they haven't done any. The two main areas I know of that you need to watch out for are the spines - "Wobblers Disease" and heart problems.

    What do you want the pup for? Is it just to be a pet or do you want to partake in sports? Have you owned dobermans before? And what attracts you to the breed? With that information I might be able to suggest some of the better breeders I have encountered in my ongoing search.

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    hey, thanks for the replies!

    i am just after a pet and guard dog. will not be using him for sports. i havent owned dobermans before but close friends have and i have always loved them and wanted one of my own
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    You could try initial contact here: Dobermann Club of Queensland Inc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjensen View Post
    hey, thanks for the replies!

    i am just after a pet and guard dog. will not be using him for sports. i havent owned dobermans before but close friends have and i have always loved them and wanted one of my own
    Though I do not wish to sound pernickety, the concept of 'pet and guard dog' makes the issue quite a bit more complex. Are you able to clarify exactly what you mean by guard dog? Most dogs will display some level of territorial 'guarding', but trained guarding is altogether different. Dobies these days are no better at the former (naturally) than most breeds, and finding one for the latter is something I would advise against as a first foray into the breed.

    Perhaps I am misunderstanding and reading more into your words than you mean, though.

    If you can clarify, I may be able to offer some recommendations.

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    hey,

    sorry, that was probably my fault!! pet mainly, by guard dog i simply meant a dog that will have some protective urge toward the house. my staffy simply wags her tail and gets her toy when someone new comes up...lol

    thanks for the replies!!
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    Cheap purebred dogs are always suspect to me.....I like the security of the dogs parents being health checked for all genetic/ortho problems ( Dna and ortho scoreing if done in Dobes), and whatever else. I am not very familiar with Dobes, so i would have to investigate.......

    It is very expensive to do all that, so I would expect the puppies price to reflect that care taken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjensen View Post
    hey,

    sorry, that was probably my fault!! pet mainly, by guard dog i simply meant a dog that will have some protective urge toward the house. my staffy simply wags her tail and gets her toy when someone new comes up...lol

    thanks for the replies!!
    LOL. You'll probably find that most Dobies, like your Staffy, will offer to help the burglars carry your wordly possessions to their cars. The best thing about Dobes is they do not really need to guard at all, most people wouldnt even consider entering a residence with a Dobe simply because they look intinidating, and the media propaganda surrounding the breed gives them a reputation most would be intruders are going to avoid anyway.

    Seriously, though, if it were me, I'd be looking at breeder who breed working lines as opposed to show (or conformation) lines. The working lines are a little less "pretty" and are often a little more compact, but IMHO they are more structurally sound and temperament wise more stable. Of course, once you get to know the "working" look, you find they are very pleasing to the eye, just in a different way to the "showies".

    I have one of each, and though both are great dogs, I now understand the difference, and working lines would be the only way I'd go in the future. When I say "working" I'd be looking for more Euro/ UK breeding lines over Australian/NZ/US lines- though I'd also be looking for lines with obedience titling, IPO, Shutz etc.

    A good working breeder will take the time and trouble to match you to a pet companion suitable for your needs, not just sell you a strong, drive-y working dog.

    Looking at DogzOnline, there is one breeder selling at the $1000 mark, but I'd be looking further and aiming for a higher budget. Look for breeders who test for genetic conditions (Von Willebrands being a major one, but also Cardio Myopathy, Hip Displaysia and Wobblers).

    Natty linked the Qld Dobie Club above, and I would highly recommend starting there, though there are a couple of Brisbane based working breeders who I also think are worth a look. Dont discount interstate breeders either. Whilst I understand the desire to purchase close to home, this can be limiting.

    Good luck with your search, Dobies make wonderful companions when matched well with the right handler. I havent listed any preferred breeders here, but do feel free to PM me if you'd like some specific names- just remember any recommendation is based on personal experience, so may not match your needs even if they did mine.

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    If a person is not ready for a working line guarding breed it's going to be a shock. Working line dogs need jobs, and a lot of the time or they become loud and destructive.

    Try Fireaxe Dobermanns for the type of dog you're after, or contact MonElite Dobermanns in Sydney as a starting point. There are some dobes out there that are a good balance of lower drive but have innate guarding capability (basically they wont be the lump the burgler trips over on the way out lol)

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