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    I agree with Beloz, I would go the rescue option if you really want one in January or find a reputable breeder and put yourself on a list. You may have to wait but at least you know you are getting a good quality pup... otherwise just support the puppy farms and get one from there....

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    There are always pug crosses at petrescue and the pound.
    I personally find pug x cavaliers weird looking, expect for one who is owned by a member here.

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    A lot of pug crosses turn up in rescue.
    Rescue one . I strongly recommend rescue.
    Rescue is the best possible way to ensure you aren't supporting puppy farms and also makes you feel good to give the dog you love the second chance they deserve. There are always lots of rescue options available, most rescue groups even start basic obedience and house training your dog so your already better off. And the price....we'll you be paying at least half of any other option with all extras like vaccinations, microchipping and dexesing included, it's win-win .

    Otherwise the only other way of obtaining a puppy ethically is via a registered breeder, don't think registered automatically means ethical either. By 'registered' I mean either via a show or working breeds body I wouldn't look twice elsewhere.
    I found it very difficult to find a registered pedigree breeder I was happy with after a year of enquires. No offense intended on pedigree breeders who actually do the right thing. It's definately wise to do some shopping around and get to know people, you'll need more than 8 weeks. At the end of the day it's all to political for me, hence I'm a big fan of rescue.

    There are LOTS of different pug crosses, certainly the breed standard in some breeds has done them a disservice (I think it's slowly evolving though - it'd be nice to see some move away from the extreemes, some dogs are starting to look more like cartoon characters!!!). However getting a dog with a longer muzzle in a breed that has a known predisposition for respiratory issues doesn't guarantee better ability to breathe. Read up on the subject of "canine brachycephaly", you often get cross breeders claiming 'hybrid vigour' which isn't entirely the truth. 'hybrid vigour' in domestic animals only works with careful selection, otherwise it can mask serious underlying issues. You may fluke a dog that can breathe better but the fact of genetics is as many good dogs you produce you will equally produce as many that are worse off, cross breeding can open a bit of a pandora's box if you don't know what your doing or prepared to deal with the consqenses. The dodgy ones are usually the ones offloaded onto unsuspecting pet homes.

    Long story short RESCUE ONE . Don't forget to post some lovely photos of your rescue so we can coo over how cute it is .
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    There is absolutely no guarantee you will not have breathing problems in a pug cross. In fact, seeing as they are usuallsy bred from poor quality pugs who have higher incidences of breathing issues, the probability of breathing problems is quite high. The most common breathing issue pugs have is pinched nostrils, which is not related to muzzle length, but the shape of the nose itself. Poorly bred cavaliers can and do display pinched nostrils as well, so crossing them is not going to reduce the incidence.

    Have you considered a Tibetan Spaniel?

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    Perfect Natty! Can't believe I haven't thought of Tibbies before when someone has wanted a "Pugalier", Tibbies have similar attributes from both breeds and are easier to find from a reputable breeder.

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    Sounds like a great option! Found one registered breeder in Sydney (though there may be more): Tibetan Spaniel Association of Victoria Inc

    There's a whole list here too: Tibetan Spaniel Breeders, Australia
    Last edited by Beloz; 12-06-2011 at 02:27 PM.

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    Don't want one of those tibetian breeds and I found a breeder all on my own thanks for the assistance

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    The daftest thing about these "designer" crossbreds is that there is already a pure breed that fits any and all of their potential descriptions and reasons for being churned out.

    But consumers love a good sales pitch, and common sense is far from common.

    Plus we live in a society geared towards instant gratification. "I want what I want, and I want it now."

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    So frustrating when you can offer 10 other alternatives and they still go for a cross bred pup *sigh*

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    Personally, I think it is anyone's good right to want one of those crossbreeds. And if there was more acceptance from communities such as these, maybe it would be easier to come to some sort of regulation for the breeding of these dogs. But if there is no alternative to the puppy farms and dodgy BYB, that is where people will keep on buying them.

    But the short notice thing bugged me a bit too. Though I can be very impulsive too and there was a good reason for the timing. They just should have started looking earlier.

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