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    Where have we belittled the OP or told them they are a bad person?

    I have seen people making some very good points about why not to buy a designer dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamstaff View Post
    This is definately the last time i will post on here. It is not just this thread I was talking about. Look in other threads, someome came on asking about a standard poodle thread and got jumped on, the poor girl who started this thread, got jumped on for wanting a groodle, I was accused of copping out because I chose to keep my dogs separated so they dont fight and kill each other. Snide little remarks when one poster agrees with someone else. People who think they know everything and attack others who DO know what they are talking about when it comes to certain breeds. It no wonder some people join ask questions and then leave straight away because of the attitudes of others.
    I'm going to respond to this simply because I was the one that used the phrase "cop out" in the other thread.

    I'm sorry that you feel offended, but nothing I said in my post that related directly to you, I certainly didn't accuse you of anything, and my post had nothing to do with how much you do or don't know about any particular breed. However, I stand by my opinion that the advice given to the OP to separate their animals because they were a certain breed, before a number of other options is taking the easiest route for the owner. Simply separating the animals because they fight, without first trying to resolve the issue, is a cop out, in my opinion. And, that really doesn't have anything to do with you, personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamstaff View Post
    This is definately the last time i will post on here. It is not just this thread I was talking about. Look in other threads, someome came on asking about a standard poodle thread and got jumped on, the poor girl who started this thread, got jumped on for wanting a groodle, I was accused of copping out because I chose to keep my dogs separated so they dont fight and kill each other. Snide little remarks when one poster agrees with someone else. People who think they know everything and attack others who DO know what they are talking about when it comes to certain breeds. It no wonder some people join ask questions and then leave straight away because of the attitudes of others.
    Be it right or wrong, that is the way of forums. Reading the written word can be misleading and confusing as the intonation and intent is often misread.

    All I can say is that perhaps you are too sensitive for public forums.

    Yes, there are rude people. There are aggressive people. There are argumentative people. There are idiots, know it alls, intelligent people, those with knowldge, those without, many with varying experiences, some are concillatory, some are generous, some are clever with language, others not so, there are those that are articulate and those that aren't. Some find it easy to convey meaning and intent, others don't even bother to try.

    There are all kinds of people but the most important thing is how you respond to them all. Do you walk away form your computer and say 'oh well' or do you seethe inside. Sometimes the former is harder said than done. I realise and acknowledge this.

    For what it is worth, I know full well that I often come across as aggressive and opinionated, but I think people take my directness too literally to be frank. I do try to tone down what I say and I use emoticons to try and convey expression (but even this fails sometimes as is shown by this thread) but above all I respect the knowledge I gain from my discussions and debates. These forums, even with the fights, teach me more about all manner of things in life than I would normally learn. They encourage me to investigate, to read up and to find out things I otherwise wouldn't learn about.

    I have no idea how others perceive the discussions, and in particular Kimbastaff in this thread, but I admit that she has made me stop and think of the size issue. I still have my thoughts on it, but it was an angle I hadn't really put too much thought into until now. I have no hard feelings against her, it is simply an internet discussion to me and I assume she is the same.

    Last of all, I hope you reconsider your decision about not participating. Stick around and accept that there are people who will not get along or agree on everything, and sometimes our emotions might rule our fingers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    I do have to agree with this post.
    There are members here who seem to 'know it all' and are less than courteous when attempting to 'educate' -belittle- others.
    I am one of the first to agree with comments such as Anne recently made....but surely the the barely concealed conceit of some is hardly needed.
    This forum has a wealth of knowledge on a wide variety of subjects and breeds.
    Can it not be shared perhaps with just a dash of decorum?
    It certainly doesn't mean anyone has to dampen their own veiws and beliefs as such but also it does not mean condemning another for having a different outlook of the same or similar subjects..
    I am not sure who this is, but is the barely concealed conceit mine?
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    Ignore my question Choppa, I think I have figured out when I stumbled acorss another thread about Staffies.
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    I cant simply ignore it Anne , you should know that

    It was not directed at you at all.....you have explained yourself to a t in your above post and and though at times you may appear to come across as many of those things , conceited , I dont feel is one of them. We ourselves have differed on certain matters but it was not done with malice or contempt and we both walked away with other perceptions to chew over and god forbid....maybe learn from

    Yes the net is a bluddy big pond , but there is still no need for some to speak to another in a way that we certainly wouldn't accept in the 'real' world ,nor would they perhaps have the nerve if not using a keyboard cloaked by their cyber name and computer monitor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalacreek View Post
    Well for what it is worth here is my experience with a mini groodle/doodle or whatever.

    A friends friend had a show GR that escaped one day and without anyone realising, mated with the neighbours purebred toy poodle. The pups were born by cesarian. I took one of the pups for my mother before they were carted off to the local petshop who paid very little for them and then charged and exhorbitant price and sold them all in one day.

    So Honey has the most fabulous temperament on the plus side and is active. She was very full on as a pup. She is very intelligent and wonderful with kids.

    On the down side her coat is a nightmare. It is much harder to look after than a poodle which we have also owned. The coat tangles easily and has all sorts of weird hairs mixed through the coat. She also has skin and gut allergies and has had various health problems.

    On the subject of cruciates, conformation of the hindend assembly like straight stifles contributs a great deal to cruciate problems. Combine this with a heavy build or fatness and the problem is made worse. Conformation can be bred for and weight can be controlled, which will reduce the risk.

    So a dog bred without due thought to conformation could be at risk. I think both poodles and GRs can have a tendency towards cruciate problems. Hips are also another area of concern with both breeds and you need to be aware of this.

    So when looking for a breeder check out the breeding setup, the health testing they have done, look at the conformation and temperament and how many litters the breeder produces each year and how the pups are socialised early on. I also dont agree with big price tags above those of a well bred purebred, you have to ask yourself why and really make sure that all the health testing applicable to each breed has been done.
    Great post Kala.
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    Come on now, I don't think there has been anything quite that severe in this post. I think there is a wealth of knowledge to be shared here, and educating people about BYBs and intentional crossbreeds is part of that. Of course there are groups like the Labradoodle org who test and hip score their animals, which is of course great, but your average joe is going to flip open the newspaper, go on trading post or walk into their pet shop and buy one of these dogs without knowing what they are in for - so it is our job to help where we can.


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    I like this thread

    Also, I would like to start a lesbian love affair with Anne, if she doesnt mind.

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    Sorry Lala, she's taken.. I already tried to win her over with my charm but she just isn't that way inclined LOL

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