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    Does anyone know where I can find someone who breeds pugaliers around the Adelaide area? THanks


    Vanessa

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    Your looking for a cross breed dog-Cavalier King Charles X Pug, Best i could find was $600.... Now imo that's a bit steep for a cross breed dog you could add an extra $200 and get a pure breed....

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    As with any crossbreed dog it is difficult to tell exactly what a Pug x Cavalier King Charles Spaniel will look like when it is fully grown. Even the size is difficult to predict.

    True story. My Pug's original owner also had Cavaliers. When the Pug was on heat the owner's little girl thought the Pug looked lonely shut up in the house so she let her out to play with a champion black and tan Cavalier stud dog. Big brother covered up the accident and initially everyone thought the Pug was having a false pregnancy.

    The little Pug had to have an emergency C-section due to the size of the pups. Only one pup survived.

    A wonderful home was found for the pup and he came back at 7 months to be desexed. The pup didn't look much like either of his parents. He had a short tan coloured coat, longish ears but not as long as his dad's and a head that showed only a touch of Pug if you knew what to look for. The most incredible thing was his size. The pup towered over his parents. He was easily Cattle dog size and solidly built.

    Pugs and Cavaliers are great little dogs. I find it incredible that anyone would want to deliberately cross breed the two.

    Get a Pug. Get a Cavalier. Get one of each. If you want a mysterious mixture go to a pound or shelter and give an unwanted dog or pup a home.

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    Hi, can you please re-read my OP, and if you can answer my question, great.
    I posted it in this forum because the word "Crossbreed" is actually in the name of the site. So I assumed people might be friendly towards someone wanting a cross breed???

    I don't want a Pug, I don't want a King Charles Cavalier. I also don't want a random dog from a pound. That's why I asked here.

    My first post on this forum, and I the first reply I get assumes I don't realise that a Pugalier is a crossbreed, and the next one tells me that I'm weird. I think I'll take my weird ignorance and bugger off, thanks.

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    I dont think anyone is trying to upset you, they are offering valuable advice and experience

    I understand this all seems quite foreign as "designer crossbreeds" are so heavily promoted...

    There are fundamental issues attached to designer cross breeds. They are most often "Farmed" like livestock which is sickening. They are poorly bred as byb and farmers cut corners to maximise their profits.
    They are renound for genetic and behavioural issues due to lack of socialisation and hideous living conditions. You dont know what your getting, puppies can be completely different from their parents in size and look. (We have seen that 100 times on this forum)
    More importantly by buying a designer dog you are supporting an industry that keeps the mothers of these puppies caged for their entire life and bred to death.

    When they can no longer reproduce they dump them in a pound if they are lucky. Many are hit over the head.

    Google puppy farming...

    I find the "I want" attitude appauling. Put your own wants aside for five minutes and educate yourself on the over supply of companion animlas in this country. Over 600,000 healthy rehomeable pets die in this counrty every year! I work with them every day, and it is nothing short of an epidemic.

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    Well said Billy

    BYB'S & Puppy farmers make me freaking angry, imo they are scumbags who don't give a rats arse about the dogs well being at all, just the almighty $$$

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    Why is this site not just called Australian Dog Forum? The title is a little confusing. I don't think we will be hearing from Vanessa again!

    By all means try to educate people, as you have me. My next dog will definitely not be bought in the same way as Jenna was. I hate to think about it, but after being 'educated' on here I have a horrible feeling she did come from a puppy farm. I was very ignorant about this practice but it is appalling and should not be supported. Nothing I can do about Jenna now except love her and give her a good life which I will do to the best of my ability.

    I have a feeling Vanessa will just go ahead and get her designer cross breed as it is very difficult to talk people out of something when they have their heart set on it. Perhaps a gentler approach might have got the message across before she bolted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkay View Post
    Why is this site not just called Australian Dog Forum? The title is a little confusing.
    To be honest, I have often wondered that myself given the reception I have seen some receive over a genuine question from new members refering to Crossbreed dogs.. Some answers can be confronting straight off, thus giving the wrong impression to those who came for advice...
    I dont blame anyone though, as many here are very passionate with their beleifs, and that is a good thing.. Just the answers need a bit more thought.
    I myself would never go and buy a Crossbreed. Only a Purebreed would be worth the money paid with the knowledge of his/her history etc..
    That's not to say I would'nt have a Crossbreed as a pet. They are no less loving or loyal to their owners.

    I dont wish to offend, but I just thought I needed to put this out there for comment..

    Cheers, Peter

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    I personally don't thinnk it's anyones bussiness what type of dog someone wants to get. They are here to ask for advise and to be lead in the right direction
    Last edited by ozeymum; 09-02-2009 at 03:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanessaE View Post
    Hi

    Does anyone know where I can find someone who breeds pugaliers around the Adelaide area? THanks


    Vanessa
    This was the original question.

    An easier way of finding an answer would be to simply google the word. I've just done it and it brings up lots of Puppy Farmers, BYB's and pet shops who provide this cross along with many others.

    My post pointed out that there is no guarantee of the size or physical appearance of any first cross. My reply was based on personal experience of an accidental mating between the two breeds. I felt I offered sound, sensible advice.

    True, it is none of our business what breed or crossbreed an individual wishes to own. However if that individual comes to a forum and makes their choice public they should be prepared to accept the opinions of others without throwing a hissy fit.

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