When people come along with their dogs to train, they expect to be able to do everything in a one hour session. You get it at the kennel Club too, "I have been to four evening and my dog is still no good", WTF.........Don't the have any idea how many hours are spent on trained dogs (years of hours and hours)
Somtimes I just feel like burying my head in the sand
Pets are forever
That's why I like Victoria Stilwell a lot more. Not just becuase she uses gentler methods that more easily transfer to inexperienced dog handlers. But the follow up is a regular part of her show and does explain the notion of "the owners now have to put the hard yards in or they'll be back where they started".
Mind you, I have only watched her show a couple of times, so I don't have much of an opinion on it apart from that.
First and foremost they are television shows. Television is entertainment. Even the news beats things up - "shark attack" when it should really say "a shark tried to eat a surfer today".
Everyone has different methods and sure we should all use different methods - first and foremost those methods should probably be chosen because they suit the situation/dog/owner, owner has to be taken into consideration in a far bigger way than many people think. But as trainers people also get good at using a couple of methods and use them with real conviction, use something with real conviction with a dog and it will often make a difference on it's own.
Also if all television trainers were the same then one would be much like the other and there might as well just be one. This is why Cesar and Stillwell are so different, they capture different audiences. Nothing involving animals can be done in an hour. A 2 minute commercial takes all day to shoot. Producers etc will look at the days shooting, not like the light and re-do the very same thing the next day, and cut, past and edit to their hearts desire. The beauty of television.
If anyone held a course for Dog Owners training (Human training), I would go..Everyone has different methods and sure we should all use different methods - first and foremost those methods should probably be chosen because they suit the situation/dog/owner, owner has to be taken into consideration in a far bigger way than many people think.
Although, it may not be a philosophy I agree with - and thats the thing.
I think we all have our own mindset with regard to how we relate to animals in general.
I hate it when I meet someone who says they employ Cesar Milan techniques, because I know odds are they're going to do something to my dog that I will not like. I once had a guy at the park approach Sammy and I, and tell me that he needed to 'alpha roll' my dog. We had just arrived, and he said he was doing it to all the dogs in the park so that he would be the boss and there would be no fighting. I said please don't touch my dog, and he told me not to worry, he watches Cesar Milan. He proceded to try and grab my dog by the neck to roll him, but Sammy growled and bared his teeth at him. I stepped in at this point and told him in no uncertain terms not to touch him again. He then told me, and the owners of a few other dogs that we were making the park unsafe for everyone. I have never heard of Cesar Milan doing anything like that, and I wouldn't expect to be able to go up to anyone's dog and physically push them to the ground without getting bitten.
I thought that guy was an idiot, and a danger unto himself and others, but that doesn't mean I hate Cesar Milan. It's not his fault that people attach his name to all sorts of random actions - people do that all the time with all sorts of things.
ETA lol posting at work when of course I should be working and there are lots of interruptions, so I started this before there were the other posts. I agree completely with Beloz, and examples like the above are why.
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