I also had no idea of this with my first dog. Fortunately she wasn't in your face aggressive. But not a social dog by any standard.
Yeh it just scared me I've never really seen an aggressive dog like that before I was trying not to judge the owner but really if it was me and I knew my dog reacted to other dogs that way I would at least try to prevent anything bad happening by at least using a muzzle if I needed to bring it to the vet even if my dog had been a un desexed male I would have understood it more but to react like that to a bitch? With pups? That's what shocked me I think
Also I was sitting as far away from the door as I could get as soon as the dog entered the vet it dragged the owner right over to where we were she had very little control over him I moved the box with the pups in it to under my seat when I seen it coming over barking and jumping around I'm glad tips just sat there hardly moving I don't know what would have happened if I didn't have such a placid dog
it is how i got one of my puppy classes jobs at one of the vets here, I came with my dog weekly to get her over it. I worked and worked at it......I take my lot in in pairs and even my historically aggressive dog from her previous life does now cope. I asked them could I work with the problem and they said "yes"....So I was there a lot training and just sitting at the vets. They got to know us, asked a lot about the training and eventually i got their "puppy classes" job and it went on from there........
I think because people do not proof their dogs and put them in the situations the dogs are not comfortable with, the dogs only get worse.....I put Annabelle in heavy training and in training mode when I used to go in. Lots of reward and focus training. But that is where I am a little different then some...I will use a little aversion. I just tap her head and say "excuse me" if she goes in a heightened mode....I initially used to check her. ( the dreaded check chain to some). Because she used to loose the plot and would not pay any attention to food. Once she has checked in and given calming signs by me, she would........Now we just walk into a situation, tell her to heel, sit, drop or stay. If she heightens I just ask her attention to focus on me, reward (often just praise). if she is still tense, I lick lips or yawn. If the other dog is reactive, I sometimes have to tap her.....And it is just a tap with my finger. But if she would go off, I would do something about it. It has not happened now for about a year. I now use her with people who do have lead aggressive dog for training, because i can read her so well. I can pick her before she does it (if that makes sense) so I can show what i do.........I love my dog, I would always try to do the kindest thing possible, but to have a reactive dog to live with is dangerous for the dog in todays world..........The wrong person sees it and complains, your dog could be PTS or have the dreaded Dangerous dog banner. Real aggression, fear aggression or lead aggression, we need to try and help these dogs.
You are lucky Tipps is so chilled, well done.........It is sad so many dogs are so stressed. And we only make it worse for them to allow it to happen and avoid the situations. the dog thinks; Great I made it all go away, by behaving the way we did. making the next time just a degree or so worse.......Snowball effect.
And sex of dogs makes no difference.....i don't even think the dogs note the sex and some dogs will attack puppies anyway, dogs of either sex. Some dogs are not social...........
Pets are forever
IMO if you know your dog is like that towards other dogs then you should at least be able to have lead control over it or muzzle it if you know it's going to come into close contact with other dogs like in vet surgery other dogs/people shouldn't have to deal with that.
My tynee showed what I thought was aggressive behavior a few weeks back towards another dog( but I don't think it was she's too young) but anyway I nipped it in the but and dealt with it she now has a halti that we use on walks and everywhere we go it's working great gives me more control and she will continue to use it for now
I don't have a problem with people owning dogs like this it's just when they are stupid about it and do dumb things like this!!
But as I mentioned in my first post, it could be the beginning of this behaviour for that particular dog and the owner may not have realised what the dog was going to do (the same as when your Tynee did it for the first time), at least he had it on a lead
Yes totally agree
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