But I do not believe in the general dominance theory that gets around that people like Cesar Millan tout about.
I think as you do that dogs do what they need to do based on instinct and protecting themselves/their families. Reinforced bad behaviour can quickly start to look like dominance.
I am not saying he was a good trainer...but I am stating more an opposition against you saying check-chains are just no good or compulsion training. We all have our own opinions and mine is in some training situations it does have a place.
i am surprised , if you deal with a lot of dogs, that you have not come across a dog that will not be responding to R+/P-. I don't see many, but there have been a few. the last one was a 14 month old staffy....he needed the guiding method and was basically a sill full on dog who had no boundaries. he is wonderful now, loving and happy. he was definitely not damaged during this training and now is out and about more with his owners, because he is so much easier to get along with.
Pets are forever
I haven't seen it because the trainers (behavioural dog trainers) I work with would work out WHY the dog is not responding and is shutting down and work on that issue and then go from there.
As long as the training works for you and the dog does it really matter what training is used provided it is used correctly?
My biggest issue with THIS sort of training is how much damage it can do to a pet dog with an amateur owner behind them, especially when you have idiots like the guy in this video putting it out there for all to see and not even doing it properly.
Just asking and not looking for an argument...Do those trainers NEVER do a quick check on the flat collar or martingale, never use a "enough" or "ugh". Because these are all P+.
I am also a Behavioural Trainer and I really enjoy working most of the dogs with R+/P-. But I will just never say never and having seen some people do some really good training with problem dogs. As you may have seen in previous posts, i advocate the BAT system a lot and it is R+/P-.......But I also will always remember my Annabelle. The dog who it was suggested by several behaviourists one vet and two from Delta, that we should PTS her. That was not going to happen, so yes she did have some P+. We took a different path with another behaviourist trainer. Like I said, since her I will never say never again.
And the staffy was on the way to the pound....And they wanted results quick.
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Pets are forever
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