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    My family bought a Jack Russel puppy when he was 6 weeks (2 weeks ago). Firstly, my family don't really like a dog walking around in the house so housetraining is out of the question. My dad doesn't like touching dogs at all and my mum likes a clean house. For the first week we kept the puppy in a box at night, where he cried and peed and pooped through the night. It wasn't cold outside at the time and we decided to put him outside.

    This wasn't a problem until recently. He's 8 weeks now and, as a lot of you may know, it is pretty cold outside here. I've searched many websites and most, if not all, say that it is absolutely cruel to keep a puppy outside in the cold weather.
    First of all, before any1 makes any "you'r cruel" comments, if i had my way i'd keep him inside. However, my brother insists that he'll be fine outside.
    I'm just wondering, is it ok for him to be outside? He's got a pretty well furnished box outside (it's on its side and it has come warm carpet inside with an old pj that he likes to sleep on). He doesn't appear to be shivering but ... i don't know...there's no shed or empty garage to keep him in so..yeah..

    any help would be much appreciated

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    Join Date
    Feb 2009


    Pup that young shouldn't be outside regardless, you are lucky he didn't get sick or eat something nasty or get injured and any or all of these things may yet happen. It is a baby, it needs supervision, it needs socialisation and it needs proper care.

    A box is not a kennel - if your parents didn't want a dog they should not have gotten one and now that they have one they need to give it (by law) appropriate shelter, food and vet care. These rules are set out in the prevention of cruelty to animal act. A box with a bit of carpet in it is simply not adequate.

    If they decide he must be outside then you need a proper kennel for him. One that is sheltered and that has the opening turned away from the wind. They cost between $100 and $200 for a dog his size - get a metal one - a pup that age will eat through a plastic or wooden dog house, especially as I imagine this one would spend a lot of time outside alone.

    He should be wearing a dog coat at night - hell my dogs are INSIDE and they wear dog coats and they're german shepherds!

    Has he been vaccinated yet? He is due now if not. It is another expense - around $80 - and there will be 2 more of those in the coming weeks. It's parvo season again and parvo is a nasty disease that decimates litters of puppies at a time.

    Then there is desexing - if you don't want your dog wandering the neighbourhood getting jiggy with the foxy ladies - he needs to be desexed in about 3 months time.

    Puppies are costly creatures - why do people not factor that in when they buy them?

    You should crate train the pup - then it can come sleep in the laundry in a crate and not mess up mums house.

    Crate Training for your Puppy

    Oh and here is how I personally believe dogs should be treated - though it does mean someone *coughmecough* has to sleep on the floor!

    Sounds like your parents never wanted a dog from what you say.

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    Mar 2009


    I completely agree with everything Occy has said. When we had our puppies at that age, they were to sleep in the laundry until they were old enough, and there immune systems and bodies were old enough to handle being outside dogs, because my parents are like yours, they don't like dogs being in the house. We would have 1 dog in the house, no questions asked. But we have 3, and they are just too much to handle in such a delicate cottage style house that took my parents 4 years to build.

    Please, please keep your puppy inside until it is the right time to send him outside! We have a cubby house for our dogs, it's built under the deck so they are away from the wind and rain etc. They have a bed each in there, but now that it's coming into Winter soon, we are going to insulate their cubby, and also going to nail some old blankets down (if we don't nail them down, they become part of the backyard!) But don't get me wrong, we give in and let them inside.

    And because Jack Russells aren't a big breed of dog, your puppy is going to get very cold, and very easily. They don't have a lot of fur (previously owned a female Jackie). We had coats for her, and brought her inside when it was too cold.

    I don't want to keep lecturing you, but honestly, why did your parents get a dog when they clearly don't want one?
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    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Northern suburbs of Cairns FNQ


    I can't add anything to the excellent advice already given but I do sympathise with you. You want to do the right thing but you must abide by your parents decisions.

    Luckily I was raised in a family of animal lovers but I have many friends who were not even allowed a dog until they left home. My husband didn't get his first dog until after we were married.

    Perhaps the kindest thing would be to find a new home for the pup where he will be loved and treated as a member of the family.

    I would guess you are still at school with no income of your own, so much as you want to do the right thing you will be hampered by lack of cash.

    Many puppies, particularly small breeds, are still with their mothers at 8 weeks. I seldom let my Pug puppies go under 10 weeks and they always went as house pets.

    Best of luck.

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    Eskuppe, thanks for worrying about your pup - I'm so glad to hear you've taken the time to come online and have a look around for what you and your pup need.

    It does sound like your family really doesn't want a dog? If you want to keep the pup for yourself that's great, but you'll need to be able to provide for it, or the pup will be missing out and you're going to feel mean as well.

    From what you describe, your pup's current housing situation is inadequate. At the age that it is, your pup doesn't have the body mass to regulate it's own temperature effectively. This means it is susceptible to extremes of heat and cold. I don't know whereabouts you are, but in NSW at the moment it is bitterly cold, it was snowing near us yesterday (near Canberra) and our dogs with short coats are really feeling the cold. I'm about to start making extra coats for them...

    Your pup will need to be in the laundry or similar to sleep, or it will get cold and sick. For a coat, go to the Op Shop and buy a little baby jumper. Put his arms through the sleeves like you would with a baby, but it will be baggy around his middle. You can get a rubber band and tie up the extra above his back like a ponytail. This will keep him much warmer and is a real start for you both.

    If you get a jumper on him, and bring him in at night (he can go in a box in the laundry so it stays clean) he should start being ok. As long as he has somewhere snug and out of the wind in the day while you're at school or work. What you'll need to do is make sure you get to any mess he makes before your folks see or smell it, so they see how hard you're working, and the pup is not a problem at all for them.

    See if you can get your parents online with you and have a talk about what is involved with maintaining your pup. Look at different kennels and housing, dog clothes etc and se if they'll get a bit more interested.

    Stay with us, there are people on here that will really help out with whatever questions you have. Your puppy cuddles will be worth any effort or early mornings!

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    Thanks for the great replies.

    Firstly, I'm gonna say one thing. I have two older brothers and one of them, oldest, decided he was gonna get a dog but apparently we were to look after it. He's getting married and he's overexcited about everything. Personally I would've liked some time beforehand to do the preparations you've already spelled out to me so clearly. But things weren't like that. The dog was bought, and, don't get me wrong I LOVE the dog, but it seems I'm the only one who cares about the pup's wellbeing, and I'm unable to do much about it.

    My question is: If I bring my pup inside, put him in a box in the laundry, he's going to cry and whimper. He knows it's his "nest" and he sleeps there already on his own, but if i force him to stay there for 8 hours or how ever long I sleep for, he'll get hungry, bored, and, at this age, I think he has a small bladder. What do I do?

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    Join Date
    Mar 2009


    I completley understand your situation.

    Something similar happened to me. My stepdad couldn't stand the whimpering and the howling at all hours of the night. So I eventually had to let my puppy in my room with me, but he was still in his box. It only took 3 nights of this before he could sleep soundly in the laundry by himself.

    And your right, and that age, they do have small bladders and tend to go to the toilet a lot more often. Just line his box with newspaper and you will have to change it every few hours. Looking after a tiny puppy is like looking after a baby. They need constant care and attention!

    All the best, and hopefully your parents become more lenient.
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    Well done for picking up where your brother left off!

    Take him out last thing before you go to bed, and first thing in the morning. You can try setting your alarm for some time during the night, and getting up to take him out. Cold and hard to get out of bed I know but if he gets used to the extra routine that you're coming in at about the same time it will help him settle. He'll also catch on fast, and pee quickly - so you can both go straight back to bed.

    Put him back to bed with something to chew as well - a bone, rawhide thing, or pigs ear etc.

    Trying to put him in and out, feeding etc at the same times each day will help stop the whimpering - he'll get to learn the routine and will be more prepared to wait as he knows what's coming next.

    Warmth is a huge bonus, even lean a hot water bottle on the outside of the box against one side - a really warm puppy won't cry for long, sleep will overcome. But a cold pup will carry on and on...

    and on...

    and on...

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    Thx again for the replies, they're all great!

    I put him in the laundry (in his box) last night and it seemed to go pretty well. Since, previously, he was forced to sleep in the box for a week, i think he got over it pretty fast. He started fidgetting and crying while we were in the room, but when we left he stopped.

    His box has a layer of newspaper on the bottom under 3 square carpets on top of each other, so I'm not worried about the poo. I make him (by make him I mean take him to the grass) pee and poo before I take him inside. He has 2 toys that he's in the process of destroying so I'm hoping that will keep him busy for a while.

    Keeping him inside all the time is not a possibility for me at all, though when I can I bring him inside so he can play and run around.
    As for waking up in the middle of the's not that I'm not willing to get up for the dog, but I've been known to sleep through VERY LOUD alarms, and since I also share my room with my brother, I don't think it would be fair to wake him up as well.

    Anyway, thanks a lot for all the help. I think i've solved my night problems, it's just what he does in the day "unsupervised" that seems to be the issue. I'm teaching him not to eat any crap that he sees on the floor, and I'm also teaching him to stay out of the bushes and such.
    Another question: For those of you who keep their dog outside, whatever age they are, how much attention (in terms of playing with them, not food and drink) would they need?

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    our puppy sleeps outside as well

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