I'm all for dogs. I love them. Most of the time I'd probably prefer the company of the dog under the next table than the person I'm actually with
BUT, I think unless there is a sign that they are allowed, or the owners in the cafe are asked first, don't assume that because it's outside your dog is allowed. I look at this way. I hate snakes. I really don't like them. They freak me out, they're so slimy and have no facial expressions. They shed their skin, it makes me want to vomit, I really, really don't like them (and yes I've held one *shudders*).
If snakes were a popular pet and were taken everywhere it would be horrible for me. I can't imagine sitting at a cafe trying to enjoy a coffee or lunch with a snake at the table next to me. I'd be thinking the whole time that its skin is falling off everywhere and that it might escape and climb my leg or something.
That's how some people feel about dogs. Most cafes don't have places for dogs, they don't serve dog food or water. To me that means unless you ask the manager first, or there is a sign stating that dogs are allowed, don't take your dog there. I love dogs, I wish I could take Rox everywhere with me (imagine grocery shopping with a dog! ), but there needs to be some line.
Wow......I am surprised about some of these reactions. We lived in the USA and Europe and a lot of places allowed well mannered dogs inside even.
I have no issues at all. Some people are more likely to cause problems from a cleanliness point of view then any dogs. you are more likely to get problems from staff hygiene.
I think it is great that some places allow dogs. gosh we have to put up with smokers in outside areas and misbehaved adults and kids.
I think manners is what counts most.......We are lucky, we live near some small towns that allow dogs where people eat outside to eat and drink. That said I do not turn up with my gang of four. But we often take them two at the time No one has ever complained at us and we have always asked the owners first.......
Pets are forever
I agree Newfsie, it comes down to manners. I'd love to take Roxie everywhere, I just know that others don't feel the same way. It is like smoking in a way. They banned it because people didn't like it, and didn't like other people forcing their habit on them.
we have lived in Cities where dogs are allowed on public transport/cafes/supermarkets- they are always leashed and all are muzzled- and all are totally accepted and well behaved- just a part of life.
I find the anti kids thing difficult. Children are small people who are learning. They are part of society. People learn from mistakes. So I expect parents to be responsible for their children however sometimes children will cry or be upset or test the boundries and I wish society would be more communal and less judgemental of the parents. Of course there are shocking parents and shocking children- but banning as a blanket rule? its quite offensive.
Yes I am glad we came back to the topic, dogs, not kids. Kids are humans. Dogs are not. I have two kids, one of the horrible teenage variety and a 6 year old. Both of them could sit in ANY 5 star resturaunt and you wouldnt know they were there, in fact we have. It all comes down to training.
Anne, its very easy to pick a non child place to eat, just pick the one with horrendous prices and no high chairs. We do that when we go for a 'romantic' night out.
I dont mind dogs being around, like everyone said, manners are the important thing. I also feel, like many of you, that it should be made obvious whether dogs are allowed or not, that way we can choose. The place we went made no such statements.
It is a good thing to discuss!
anne i dont like it because of the reasons that sweetboy has pointed out. they are a part of the family, they are human beings and are entitled to go out for dinner/lunch with their family. yes they should be managed by their parents in such a way that they dont disrupt the comfort and piece of other patrons, but they should have every right to be in a restaurant and cafe. I just find it rude to be quite honest that one would say something like that
I have no kids. I don't want them either, nor do I like them as a rule. Some are ok, but only for very short periods of time. So why can't there be "Kid free" restaurants etc?
I would love to see "Kid Friendly" and "Not Kid Friendly" restaurants, shops etc. I'd love to be able to get away from that high pitched, ear drum bursting squeal that most young children decide to bring out when they can't get their own way. I don't want to have to deal with being run into or knocked over by older kids running around being feral. I certainly never ever want another kid to fall face first into my meal again!
& I'd also like to be able to go out to a normal restaurant - not one with exorbitant prices and find a seat where I'm not surrounded by children...
Kids behaving badly bug me. I have had kids and have grandkids and as I have been there done that I have the right to feel whichever way I choose. I keep my opinions to myself and put up with a kid kicking the back of my seat on short flights etc but I am allowed to have any feelings I like about it. If others do not agree, well tough. We are all allowed our own thoughts.
Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.
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