I have to disagree that a prong collar is a lazy method of training. I have never had problems training any dog that I have owned up until now, which is what brought me to this post. A year after taking in a 18 month old dog, I am still struggling with her to walk on a lead properly and obey simple commands. After an extremely frustrating situation yesterday, I am now looking for a trainer to help. And if all else fails, I would seriously consider a prong collar. I have seen them used by Cesar Millan and I believe as he says, if used correctly they can be a saviour.