I can vouch for how little a prong hurts. I've had one around my leg & around my neck and pulled on it. It's uncomfortable but not painful.
Most vets do not hate them. Neither does the RSPCA. What they hate is MISUSE of them. Perhaps you should check your facts before spouting rubbish over the internet.
ETA: It's also been proven that Prongs do less damage to a dogs neck than a check chain. Plus the level of neck injuries that are happening due to the "gentle leaders" "haltis" etc is just plain scary. Dogs are not horses. They are not built to be led around by the head...
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S: which vets? Never met one who said they hated them? and pet shops cant get them because they are a restricted import...Vets and pet shops hate them
Do you mean the pet shops that sell puppies btw?
S: I think you need a little closer at the RSPCA and see how cruel they can be...and even RSPCA Cruelty to animals.
S: I guess as much as a person likes to be pulled along by a dog.How would a person like to be walked with one, see how the owner feels then.
Do you think a dog likes to pull into a no pull harness, halter or any type of collar?
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I know that there have been a few out of control Rescue newfies "saved" by a prong......Next stop was PTS.
It is great having the time and dog from puppy under good training conditions and such. But when you get 75 kg out of control never been trained before dog from a previous bad owner, you need someone who know how to use one correctly and it will have a good outcome.
So the people I know should be shot?
Pets are forever
Victoria is the only state (indeed the only place worldwide) that has banned the PP collar. Unbelievable but true.
Each state has individual regulations on the use of electronic (commonly incorrectly referred to as 'shock') collars.
When I read thses debates, I feel immensely happy that a small breed is my choice. My dogs wander all over the place, tangle themselves up with their leads, tangle me up in their leads, and generally really enjoy a walk. They sniff, they scratch, they investigate their surrounds.
I can't stand seeing dogs wlaking in a straight line next to an owner... who is the walk for - the dog or the owner?
I know that if I had larger dogs, this mght not be possible to give them the freedom I give mine, and I certainly understand that a large dog pulling you along is not a good situation to be in.
A pessimist sees the glass as half empty;
An optimist sees the glass as half full;
A realist just finishes the damn thing and refills it.
I only ask for a heel when doing obedience or if the situation requires Batty's attention solely on me. The rest of the time Batty walks to the end of the leash (2.5m) sniffs around and enjoys his walk thoroughly. He's not allowed to pull but he's not restricted to my side either.
I have had the benefit of training him from when he was 9 weeks old though.
When Batty & I go walking it's for both of us. I enjoy the fresh air and exercise and so does he.
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