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    Question Feeding a Puppy

    Hi there, I was just wondering what I should feed my puppies? They are Cavalier x poodle.

    At the moment they are having dry food in the morning and night, so I introduce some mince or something else? They are 11 weeks old.

    I feed them at about 7 ish in the morning and at about 4:30 - 5 in the arvo, does this sound about right?

    Thanks for any advice :-)

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    I have a Cavalier X Cavoodle (Cav X Poodle) who is 18 weeks old.

    I feed her dry food in the morning and raw chicken mince (pet grade - whole carceses) in the evening.

    Sometimes she gets a raw egg on her food too.

    Our pup was on just dry food to begin with as this is what the seller reccomended but I felt that she needed something more.

    She also gets a bone (briskit) 2 - 3 times a week.

    Hope this helps!

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    My 12 week old puppies are having biscuits, raw diced beef and bones.

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    Thanks for that guys, Just another question, do you guys cook up the meat or give it to them raw? ie like chiken mince?

    Thanks :-)

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    I don't feed my dogs things like chicken mince but they do get chicken necks through out the week as treats.

    But if I were to, I would give it to them raw.

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    I would go mostly raw food, this post will be rather long but might be of help to those who have not aleady been looking up BARF

    A book Report on:

    Dr. Ian Billinghurst, B.Sc.(Hons),B.S.c.Agr., Dip.Ed..

    ISBN 0 646 1646 16028 1

    Copyright 1993


    “Give Your Dog a Bone”

    P.O. Box W064 Bathurst N.S.W. Australia

    Australia 2795


    “A study of the foods eaten by wild dogs should provide us with a sound basis for feeding modern dogs.”


    Dogs eat other animals – meat. This means bones, internal organs, everything, and they love to eat this way. All parts of an animal carcase can and should form PART of a dog’s diet. The bones and meat should be RAW. Cooked bones cause bowel obstructions and can tear or pierce a dog’s stomach or intestines.


    When a wild dog kills its food it eats the stomach and intestinal contents – fermenting grass and plants. So dogs love eating raw over-ripe plant material and fruits and they will often scavenge fruit fallen from a tree and forage in the compost heap. Both vegetables and fruit should form another part of a dog’s die< and all of it should be RAW, cooked vegetables loose much of their nutritional value. Corn cobs can cause bowel obstructions in a dog. Fruit is best if it is OVER-RIPE and vegetables should be PULPED…(use a juicer, drink the juice yourself and feed the dog the pulp).

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    Dogs will eat practically anything including soil and bark from trees and they will rummage in the garbage bin. Wild dogs eat the left- overs from every animal that is killed or dies.

    The dog is adapted to eat LOTS OF RAW MEATY BONES. Dogs eat rotten things and waste products – vomit, decaying foods and faeces, and they derive valuable nutrition from these. Many dogs fed on commercial pet foods have to eat faeces to stay healthy, the faeces is the far better product nutritionally. To replace the nutrients a dog obtains from eating faeces feed Yoghurt, Brewer’s Yeast, Eggs, Polyunsaturated oils like safflower, an enzyme supplement and give pulped raw vegetables as a source of fibre.


    As puppies ,dogs will eat anything that moves, other living things, including insects, beetles, ants, lizards. As time passes birds, poultry and other small mammals, and if a member of a pack of wild dogs, a grown dog will hunt sheep, goats, deer, cattle for food, it is natural for the dog to hunt.


    A hungry dog will eat whatever is available.

    Many stray dogs survive on the contents of garbage bins, and they can pick and choose. It is natural to dogs to seek their own food and in doing so they get plenty of the right kind of exercise.


    A dog can eat practically anything and in this it is one of the most versatile creatures. Whatever you can feed to other animals you can feed to a dog. Human beings are omnivores! The dog and man have been companions since the Cro Magnons walked the earth.

    Dogs eat : BONES, OFFAL –liver, kidneys, heart, lungs, etc. Dogs eat RAW VEGETABLES, sometimes in large quantities. Dogs eat over-ripe fruits.

    Dogs eat fresh food and decaying food, faeces of other animals and their own and even soil. Bones and Raw Food are the natural diet of a dog foods for dogs, A diet based on plenty of RAW, MEATY BONES and then as wide a variety of foods as possible – would mimic the diet of the dog’s wild ancestors.

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    It is not necessary to feed a dog a balanced diet with every meal, but rather over time.The diet should be balanced over many meals. Sometimes it is beneficial to fast your dog for a day offering only water. Wild dogs do not eat absolutely every day.

    The Home Cooked Dog Stew- don’t do it

    “Rice, pasta, veggies and some meat cooked up into a stew is a similar recipe to that followed by the pet food companies”.

    Most nutritional problems associated with commercial dog foods are also true of home COOKED “dog stew”…it lacks vitamins !

    The single item diet is also unhealthy.

    Feed lots of different foods. If your dog is a ‘finnicky eater’ and will eat only one particular food, combine this with other foods in a good pulp to prevent the dog from separating out the item it prefers, then give lots of Raw Meaty Bones.

    An ‘all meat’, ‘all fish’, ‘all offal’, ‘all table scraps’, ‘all bought pet food’ diet is bad for your dog’s health and will not contribute to its wellbeing nor to its longevity.

    What a dog needs out of its food.

    “Food gives your dog energy, energy is the fuel, the stuff which allows your dog to run all day and not tire.”

    Dogs need:




    Essential Fatty Acids

    Omega3 and 6 Fatty Acids


    CARBOHYDRATES – these are derived from certain plant foods.

    “Simple sugars, starch and insoluble fibres are NOT foods a dog’s body is designed to handle in large amounts.”

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    Wild dogs get the carbohydrates they need from the stomach and intestinal contents of their prey and this food is rich in the types of carbohydrates which are good for them, such as a variety of sugars, small amounts of starch, and lots of insoluble fibre. Modern dogs should get their carbohydrates in a similar manner and balance. GRAINS AND PASTAS, PARTICULARLY RICE AND CORN should be limited severely!


    Dogs need fat, especially animal fat in their diets, these aid in the absorption of fat-soluble vitamins. Fats give rise to hormone-like substances called prostglandins and some fats contain Essential Fatty Acids. Fat provides insulation for internal organs and nerves, and padding for physical protection..


    These help regulate every aspect of a body’s functioning. If absent, their place is taken by NON-essential fatty acids which cause disease. Dogs fed on a diet rich in saturated fats such as beef tallow or on monounsaturated fats such as olive or canola oil are more likely to develop a DEFICIENCY OF ESSENTIAL FATTY ACIDS. Essential Fatty Acids are best supplied by feeding a dog chicken fat or lard, or some polyunsaturated vegetable oil such as Safflower Oil, Soya Bean Oil or Corn Oil combined with Vitamin E to prevent the fats from going rancid in the body. DO NOT FEED A DOG MARGARINE.


    The first are found in vegetable oils, poultry and pig fats.

    Safflower Oil is the most beneficial. Chicken fat and pork fat are next in line. A lack of Omega 6 Fatty Acids results in itchy skin problems, reproductive problems and growth problems.

    Omega 3 Fatty Acids are available to wild dogs in brains, raw eggs, faeces and in the intestinal contents of their prey = pulped vegetable matter. Lack of these nutrients will cause both nervous and vision

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    problems. Linseed oil ( FOOD GRADE) is the richest non-marine source of these nutrients, then Soya Bean and Corn Oil.

    Plant sources of Omega 6 and 3 Fatty Acids are:

    Oats, Mushrooms, Baked Beans, Spinach and Bananas.

    Animal sources are: lamb’s liver and rabbit, next LEAN beef, then chicken.

    So how do I feed these nutrients to my dog?

    Just include in the dog’s diet a broad range of the above-mentioned foods. Lots of RAW, meaty chicken bones, ( wings, carcases etc), eggs, brains, lamb’s liver, green leafy vegetables, oats, mushrooms, baked beans, spinach and bananas…YES, REALLY !

    Add an appropriate vegetable oil supplement for a good balance. If you are supplementing your dog’s diet with oils and fats high in essential fatty acids you must ADD VITAMIN E to the diet and always feed FRESH oil , not the oil left over from cooking.


    “Give your dog the best”

    A dog needs more protein when it is growing than when it is an adult. Proteins are the main nutrient found in Meat and Eggs, Cheese and Milk. A diet based on lots of Raw, meaty Bones, fresh green leafy vegetables, a variety of fresh raw meats, dairy products, Brewer’s yeast, seafoods, eggs…and add some KELP TABLETS or powder will provide the dog with every nutrient it needs.


    Pulp the vegetables in the juicer or pass them through an old fashioned meat mincer. THIS PULP CONTAINS – FIBRE, WATER, MINERALS, CALCIUM. ENZYMES, VITAMINS, CARBOHYDRATES, ANTI-OXIDANTS and some proteins and essential fatty acids !

    To the vegetable pulp add:

    · One of the oils, such as soya bean oil

    · some Brewer’s Yeast

    · some Kelp

    · a raw egg ( most dogs can eat the whole egg)

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    * some apple cider vinegar

    · some yoghurt

    The vegetable pulp must be processed FRESH so it does not lose its nutritional value through oxidation – do not store it.

    What vegetables?

    Any vegetables which are in season – spinach, broccoli, cauliflower, beans, peas, cabbage, brussel sprouts, lettuce and salad greens, sweet potatoe, ( the yellow ones), celery, parsnip, onions….even the off-cuts the vegetable shop throws out, even pulped vegetable peelings.

    DO NOT FEED EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS cabbage, cauliflower, broccoli and brussel sprouts over a long period, also limit the amounts of peas and beans.

    If feeding raw potatoes, pulped, remember that GREEN potatoes are poisonous!


    Really rotten fruit should not be fed.

    Ripe or over-ripe is fine, do not feed unripe fruit, allow it ripen. Fruit can be fed at any time. Fruit is Youth ! The older the dog, the more fruit it should have. Fruit is particularly valuable for arthritic dogs. Dried fruits are an excellent addition to a dog’s diet, they are a natural laxitive and valuable when the dog has eaten lots of bones.

    Honey, as the nectar of flowering plants is an excellent raw food to add to, say, oats mixed with dried fruit.


    These should form a small part of a dog’s diet. SPROUTED LEGUMES for example mung beans, are nutritious, but be sure that you purchase FOOD GRADE seeds. Sprouted legumes should be eaten when they are just slightly sprouted for maximum nutritional value. To pulp these, wrap them in a lettuce leaf or such like .

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    NOT RECOMMENDED for dogs, except, perhaps OATS. Obtain heat treated oats and then use it as only PART of the dog’s diet.

    Sprouted FOOD GRADE grain is the best way to feed grain to a dog…if you really must.

    The gluten in BREAD is bad for your dog. Most bread off the shelf these days also contains chemicals, preservatives, emulsifiers…not exactly what a wild dog would hunt or scavenge.


    “Modern day dairy products are not entirely health promoting, this is because they are not RAW….They have been pasteurized = cooked. Pasteurisation destroys valuable vitamins, anti-oxidants, enzymes and other healthy substances found in raw milk.” = Milk straight from the cow.”

    “ ****genisation releases a chemical which damages the inside walls of blood vessels…Despite that, pasteurized milk products can be used as PART of a balanced, healthy diet for our omnivorous, scavenging friend the dog. However, feeding pasteurized milk to your dog is just as non- beneficial as feeding other cooked food.”

    Some dogs cannot tolerate pasteurized milk. Some lactose intolerant dogs can drink goat’s milk, if it is raw. Experiments with cow’s milk fortified with whey protein and canola oil have shown that dogs react well to this.

    Safe Milk Recipe fro Dogs

    · The mix is a cup of milk ( 250ml),.

    · 2 egg yolks.

    · One or two teaspoons of canola oil.

    · One teaspoon of honey and a pinch of salt.

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    This Safe Milk Recipe is also an excellent emergency substitute for orphaned pups, and to improve it, add a few drops of a complete vitamin supplement, say, Pentavite – baby Drops.

    NOTE: The addition of eggs can result in pups developing egg allergy later in life...

    Soy Milk

    Not a worthwhile food for dogs.

    If you must feed it add egg and calcium for it to be of any real benefit.


    This is dried milk, a source of protein and fat…but it is still cooked and has had the whey removed. It is not a complete food.

    As PART of a balanced diet, feeding cheese to your dog is fine in small doses at irregular intervals. Cheese may be safely fed to dogs with lactose intolerance. Do not feed cheese to an old dog with a heart problem, it is high in sodium.


    A good food for dogs of all ages and health statuses, providing

    “… easily digestible, high quality protein.” Do not feed in large amounts, again, as PART of the dog’s diet.


    “Plain Yoghurt with living culture present is an excellent food for dogs. In many ways it is like one of the wild dog’s natural foods- faeces, it is full of living and dead friendly bacteria. Yoghurt can be added to ANY dog’s food. If your dog has to take antibiotics, feed it yoghurt and use natural yoghurt.”


    “These are pure fat., energy foods. A small amount is fine, especially if they are made from raw milk.


    “Don’t buy it, don’t use it……it is definitely NOT a health food. If you must have it yourself, make sure your dog doesn’t get any.”

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    Make sure your dog’s diet consists of at least FIFTY PERCENT RAW foods. Vegetable peelings are better than the inside bits. Wash them well beforehand to remove chemicals, put these through the juicer and pulp them. Some table scraps are alright occasionally as is meat from the family BBQ…just a small amount as treat, not as a meal. Supplement table scraps with RAW MEATY BONES and keep in mind that dogs are OMNIVORES and can eat just about everything.


    “ Make sure you feed 60% - 80% Raw Meaty Bones “

    Raw meaty bones are essential to a dog’s health.

    “The very best raw meaty bones in our experience are chicken bones, wings, necks.” The fat on raw chicken is excellent. Young chickens contain no toxins. Meaty lamb bones are almost as good but the bone is a bit too hard for young pups. If you can only get bones with not much meat, feed meat scraps with these.

    A balanced Meal

    It is not important to make every meal you feed your dog a complete and balanced one.It is sufficient that the dog gets a balanced diet over a period of about three to seven days. “Of course there’s no harm if a meal is “complete and balanced” occasionally, but not all the time.”


    Into a cup of pulped/mushed raw vegetables

    · One beaten egg

    · Brewer’s Yeast – about a teaspoon full

    · A kelp tablet – crushed or powdered

    · Some vegetable oil.

    In Winter give Cod Liver Oil once a week for vitamin K which would otherwise come from sunlight.

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    For a change – to either porridge (oats) or the vegetables, instead of or as well as the egg, put some offal and/or dairy food – a heaped tablespoon of yoghurt.


    Raw meaty bones from chicken, lamb, beef, rabbit, pork.

    Muscle meat from chicken, lamb, beef, pork.

    Organ meat –offal, liver, kidney, brains.

    Eggs, especially the yolk

    Cheese, Cottage cheese, milk ( fortified), butter

    Seafoods- any fatty fish, sardines, salmon, herring


    Fresh green leafy vegetables – spinach, silver beet, the outside leaves of lettuce, salad greens, then other green vegetables such as broccoli, etc. Corn kernels, sweet potatoes, (the yellow ones), pumpkin, squash, mushrooms.

    Root Vegetables – regular potatoes, carrots, radishes, turnips, parsnips….any of them, and dried fruits, for example prunes, sultanas, dries apples and apricots etc.

    Legumes – peas, beans, Baked Beans.

    Whole Grains – IN MODERATION AND WITH A SUPPLEMENT Oats, brown rice, wheat germ, wheat bran.

    Miscellaneous – Brewer’s Yeast, Honey, Sesame seed Paste (Tahini), Kelp powder or tablets, Molasses.

    Oils – Cod Liver Oil ( especially in winter), safflower oil, sunflower oil, soyabean oil, peanut oil, linseed oil (FOOD GRADE).


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    Recipe Tips

    “ If your dog is too fat, reduce the additives, especially oils and proteins. If your dog is thin, these can be increased.”

    The Starchy Meal

    This is a cooked meal comprised mainly of cereal i.e Oats or Brown Rice. Add dried fruits, honey or oil or an egg and serve it warm in winter.

    The Grain and legume meal

    Cooked, or raw, pulped grain and/or legume sprouts, Baked Beans or a Three bean Mix , added to raw, pulped green leafy vegetables, add oil, Brewer’s Yeast, yoghurt and Kelp.

    The Meat Meal

    A large joint of meat on the bone is the ideal. Alternatively, a large chunk of meat without the bone. Or Minced Meat. The meat can be any of the meats – Chicken ( a whole chicken carcase is ideal), Beef, Veal, Roo, Horse etc…

    If it is Minced meat you can mince Offal through it, also add whole egg or yolk, fish, cottage cheese, vegetables, brewer’s yeast and kelp.

    The Milk Meal

    About a cup or two of ordinary cow’s milk. Add two or three whole eggs or yolks, 5 to 10 ml of one of the recommended vegetable oils, one or two teaspoons of Brewer’s Yeast and a pinch of ‘lite’ salt.

    The Offal Meal

    This can consist of one or more of such offal products as liver, kidney, heart, brain, tripe etc.. Butcher’s “pet mince” will contain many of these. Offal is important for dogs since it contains many essential nutrients.

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    Achieving a Balance

    A BALANCED DIET FOR A DOG over 2 to 3 weeks

    · 10 Meaty Bone Meals combined with

    · 4 Green Leafy vegetable meals

    · 1 Starchy meal

    · 1 Grain and legumes meal

    · 1 Meat only Meal

    · 2 Milk meals

    · 1 or 2 Offal Meals


    Lots of Raw Meaty Bones fed almost every day

    Lots of Green leafy vegetables

    Small amounts of grain and starch-type products

    Some Eggs

    Some Oil

    Some Dairy Foods

    Some Offal products…about once or twice a week

    Brewer’s Yeast and Kelp..daily

    Feed a variety of types of meaty bones. If you cannot get a lot of the best = chicken bones, add extra oil to supply the essential fatty acids.

    Two parts meat to one part of bone sometimes, and other times and more frequently four parts bone to one part meat. Boned out chicken carcases are good!

    It is often necessary to trim the fat from the bones since the bones themselves provide the fats necessary…depending on the weight of the dog.

    If feeding lots of oils feed also VITAMIN E.


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    Useful Tips

    If you feed your dog a large meal of meat and bones

    It is a good idea to follow this up with a fast the next day…this is a natural feeding pattern for a dog and is not cruel.

    It is not necessary to have a feeding routine and feed the dog at the same time every day. This is also normal for a dog – to eat at irregular hours.

    Exercise your dog first and feed afterwards.

    How much food you feed your dog depends on the dog.

    “A healthy dog is a slim, athletic creature. It has a light covering of flesh over its ribs.” Think of your dog when it was 18 mths of age, most dogs are at their peak then…feed accordingly to keep the dog looking like this.

    This précis of the book “Give Your Dog a Bone” is for study purposes only. The book was first published in 1993 and had nine reprintings. It contains valuable information for all who are involved with dogs. This précis is intended as a report and is not for sale. Much of the information here needs to be qualified

    .” ‘Give Your Dog a Bone’ is the first in a series dealing with feeding companion animals for maximum health. Each page contains valuable information for anyone who is involved with dogs, including veterinary surgeons, veterinary students, dog breeders and dog owners generally. It is an absolute must for the owners and potential owners of new puppies.” ( Dr. Ian Billinghurst – author)

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    Omg Minibulls Mum that was a long read lol!

    Useful too.

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    Hey Minibulls mum,

    That was really great report...It will be difficult to remember all those points but will take a print and follow it accordingly...

    Thanks Buddy...for sharing with all...

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    Thanks MM for sharing....

    I too am a fan of Dr Billinghurst, whom has kindly helped me work out Floyd's raw dietary needs etc.

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