I didn't get Ollies ribbons and I didn't get money on his litters, so the money I paid to the breeder was a profit for her. She got her cake and ate it too.
Now, I know there is heaps involved in whelping, with vet fee's health checks, c-sections sometimes, sleepless nights, electricity bills going up etc etc
So the puppies often reimburse the losses rather than make a profit (depending on breed type), but we aren't talking about a puppy, we are speaking about an adult dog who has already sired litters earning the breeder at least her money back to keep her breeding program going.
She sold him for $800 because she could at least she knew that the I was very keen and wasn't getting him on a whim.
Last edited by puggerup; 03-29-2010 at 11:01 PM.
It's only ever that much here for Contest of Champions and Puppy of the Year! Plus the most you will ever drive is 3 hours (mainland trips excluded)
Guess we have it lucky here!
What I am trying to say is the Ribbons cost money to get. You have to go to shows to get the ribbons. Entries/fuel bills to interstate royals, local shows etc. For a stud dog to be worth the fees he needs to be campaigned at least in his state.
If not home grown there is the cost of the dog in the first place, his vaccinations, vet bills etc and even if he is, there is the expense of the litter he was in.
My young Stud Dog has not earned his "keep" yet let alone made a profit if/when he does manage to make a profit that profit will soon be soaked up by the expenses of something else to do with my dogs. To date he has already cost me one vet visit for stitching beyond his routine visits. If I'd been inexperienced with dogs I would of also taken him to the vet to get one of his baby canines removed. He was completely vet checked and his bloods done before breeding, a stool sample done etc.
Then as I also plan to use other stud dogs other than my own, what I might manage to get for him will in turn be used elsewhere to secure a different stud and bring new lines in.
I have a friend who has three stud dogs in her kennels. One has had extensive surgery after a run in with a Kangaroo and one did his crucial ligament trying to get a kangaroo, they are mature dogs, one has been used at stud quite a bit, she still goes to work primarily to keep her dogs and not impact on the rest of the family.
You might manage to make a profit on an individual dog but you won't make a profit overall on breeding/showing dogs, if done correctly and campaigning them.
So yep I do it for the enjoyment. There is no money in it. It's like your pay at the end of the week, you bring it home and it's very quickly all gone back into the expense of keeping a roof over your head. So essentially what you might make one one dog will be taken up by your other dogs.
Lets take another friend, her first litter, all went wrong even though this was not the bitches first litter. Emergency on a Saturday night complete removal of the dogs reproductive system, two puppies dead, another two died a couple of days later. What a baptism of fire into breeding for this young woman, she is already behind the 8 ball. She thought she was doing the right thing getting a mature experienced champion. No guarantees where dogs are concerned.
If and I say if some lucky bugger can manage to make a profit and I highly doubt it then good for them. Tomorrow that could all go wrong.
As for Ollie, he was sold at a year old, so I guessing he was not what the breeder was hoping for, so the breeder will start again. If either of the puppies I'm keeping don't turn out they will be sold as pets and I will start again. In the meantime they would of seen a vet 4 times. Day after birth and 3 vaccinations, worming, travel to a couple of shows and entries, food and my time and effort.
Last edited by mouseandchicken; 03-30-2010 at 07:02 AM.
Well, I'm happy to say that I have chosen NOt to go down the road of purchasing the dog I was considering. Just not happy.
However, have had three male puppies offered to me. Been researching, talking, working things out with them as to the best scenario re Logan settling (and us) and have made final decision this morning re which puppy.
Puppy is ready to go late May but will be having him run on into June, at this stage. We are all in agreeance with that decision.
Thank you to all here for your input, especially that given by the experienced breeders on this forum. Once again, it was appreciated!
YAY for you DA ...
I expect photos!!! lol
Breeding, Showing, Training and general crazy making!!!
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I heard a couple of sad stories from a labrador breeder today. She didn't mention offering to take dogs back if it was all going wrong...
One puppy she had sold, she got the deposit but the payment cheque bounced. She hassled the guy for the money, and he didn't pay, so she went around to his place - puppy would be about 4 months old by then, and it was wild, and aggressive and the place was covered in bones and dog crap. He paid or she left it there, story got a bit fuzzy - and the dog was eventually put to sleep for being dangerous. It was entirely the owner's fault.
And there was a second lab that was sold, became unmanageable and dangerous - the breeder said to put it to sleep because it was "ruined", and the owner would not and "rehomed" it. And she doesn't know what has become of that one. Again it was the owners fault for neglecting it and not training it at all. People think that Labradors are automatically like guide dogs with no effort required on their part.
I will have to ask her next week what she thinks of taking a dog back if it's not working out in its new home. And also if she thinks a dog that has been neglected and gone feral can be re-trained. I suspect she thinks not - for that one.
I'm not looking forward to the winter shows... much prefer summer when you can have a quiet drink ringside and fire up the portable BBQ.
Our entries are $5 for baby puppies and $9 for adults.
International judges are usually $10-$12.
Parades are $2
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