Breeding, Showing, Training and general crazy making!!!
If you seek understanding listen to the music, not the song.
I would also be weary of not being told the reason was being rehomed... with rescue work we get all sorts of reasons, but the majority I guess would be expanding family... Most people also wish to keep in contact with the dog once he has been placed... they are the good ones... so perhaps you could ask to speak to the previous owners... if the answer is no.. I would wonder why... of course all this doenst mean the dog is no good.. you will only know that by meeting and spending time with him/her
Absolutely don't touch a returned dog/bitch unless the breeder can give a reason for its return.
I think it's all part of the matching dog to owner process.
I've place a few puppies into homes that haven't come up to show standard, these dogs have been from my home they have not been dogs I've placed out to show homes.
In those instances I've charged the same as a puppy. A return I may think differently about and all sorts of circumstances then come into it, it's not so cut and dried.
I would agree with MAC. Each situation to it's own. Many people don't have the same respect for a free animal as they do one they've paid for, sad but true. And most breeders would want to screen those sort of people out as potential owners.
I've known excellent show dogs returned through no fault of their own, and then given away to available, known show homes. But my breed is a minority breed, and great homes are not always easy to find. Sometimes you'll find dogs are rehomed through word of mouth, and trusted avenues to other show people or their family and friends. These ones are more than likely given away.
Any costs involved with rehoming of an older dog should be explained along with it's full history. That's not to say that a breeder needs to justify charging money for a good dog, but people need to understand that they're not being taken advantage of.
I agree with full history being supplied if possible to. Particularly veterinary history. For instance, insurance companies (for pets) will dither and may not pay for claims if the medical history of the dog is not supplied. When a dog is NOT purchased as a pup at 8 weeks of age or so, the new purchaser really does require history.
Thanks all for your input. Much appreciated.
If someone tried to sell me a dog that had been returned I would want to know why otherwise you would be forever thinking, well, is this dog aggressive with children, is it destructive, is it a digger?
Even if the dog did have behavioral problems, I would probably still take it if it was what I wanted in every other aspect. If they told me the dog was a digger, I would make sure my garden was dog proof in the parts i didn't want dug up before he came. Or if he was destructive, I would take extra steps to make sure my prized possesions couldn't be destroyed.
If he was rehomed because the owners had to move or had some sort of family emergency then it wouldn't matter at all.
Hi Crested. decided not to go with that dog. No reason is given, and I am not going to blindly trust the breeder that it is a 'genuine reason.' It probably is a genuine reason, but i would need to know it.
Not a breeder I would recommend, so will not deal with any further dogs available from them.
I paid $800 for Ollie and he was a year old, microchipped and the rest, so the breeder would have made over $500 profit selling him to me, and he gave her a few litters and some ribbons too.
I was shocked (nicely) when Miley was given to be for nothing. She gave her breeder 2 or 3 litters also, but the breeder wanted a nice home for her more than money.
Not sure why one would do it one way and the other another *shrugs*
I just wanted to say that I good breeder makes no profit from selling dogs.
By the time you drag dogs across the country side, showing etc, the fuel bill alone, motel, entry fees, dog trailer and as you know just the expense of owning a dog does not equate to making money.
It's costing me $75 for the two Whippet Shows this coming weekend and now with four dogs each day averages out to about $30.00 per show. Add, as I say fuel, and no profit is made.
If I was a byb, who didn't care for the health of my dogs, then yep I could possibly make money.
I realise that Pugger may not have intended to use the word profit to describe every breeder, but I get a bit touchy with that subject.
The longer a dog stays in my home the more it costs.
Last edited by mouseandchicken; 03-29-2010 at 01:30 PM.
Exactly MAC, I have heard so many times that show breeders make a huge profit - NOT TRUE!
Not only is is expensive to purchase the bitch, and pay for the stud fee for the dog but then you have vaccinations, worming, vet visits, genetic testing etc etc etc.
Then when you add petrol and entry fees on top of that over a few years it SKYROCKETS! I just entered Cyrus in some local shows, as he is a baby puppy entry fees are only $5.50 but when he is in the adult/puppy classes it goes up, as well as under international judges it is always more (around $12 per entry) And when he's a bit better trained we will be making trips down to hobart and along the coast for shows - In our car you are looking at around $100 in fuel each trip.
Thankyou for pointing that out, I will have to use that one next time I get in an argument with someone about show breeders.
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