Batty's Training and Behaviour Journal- Updated 15/03/2010
Why not with others, Myf? Because I think many kids can be really...stupid...sometimes. Or just uneducated, with no experience of dogs.
I suppose that's an interesting one to answer. We have one 10 year old who comes over, and one fifteen year old who comes over. Both those boys can be with any dog I trust no problem. They understand dogs, are extremely respectful of anything that I or my sons tell them. We don't have any other kids come here, Myf to be honest. Just those two. Growing up there has never been an issue with other kid's when mine were younger, but once again, they wre kids that my dogs knew. Previous dogs have been unsupervised with those kids in the past. My son would hook them up though so they could go sled riding with the dogs doing the work. Lazy sods!
But I think I'm not getting the gist of your question, really. Why would my dog be alone with someone else's child if myself, my husband and my kids were not there?
Im getting the idea, that when people say they trust their dog 100%, it means they can do anything with anyone and the dog will show absolutely no signs what-so-ever of being 'aggressive.'
Being 100% trustoworthy does not have 'buts', 'ifs' or exceptions, its 100%.
If you say you trust your dog with yours kids, but not with others, then im sorry, but thats not 100%.
If you trust your dog too be perfect when kids are perfect, but unpredictable when it gets a kid poking his eyes, then thats not 100%.
How many times have you heard 'he just snapped' on the news?
DA, im thinking like, if a friend comes over, you're sitting in the kitchen while the kids are playing in the lounge room or someting.
Last edited by aussiemyf7; 03-29-2010 at 01:18 PM.
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Kid's poke dogs in eyes? Sigh. Poor dogs.
Right, I get ya now, Myf. Um, but I don't have any friends. But on a good note, I am meeting C&B's mum I think? Aw no, hang on, she doesn't have kids. Duh.
Had friend's in Qld, yep, they'd come over. Their kids would be running around like blue-arse flies. But those were the kids that were at my house a lot. One did try to plait Kingdom's fur, and they did use the dogs as bean-bags. Kingdom then liked his fur being plaited, silly dog, and they were trained as bean bags right from puppies.
Does that answer you, or am I still missing the point???
Well i trust my older kids & my dogs 100% & they are left alone together, if i cant trust my dog or kids 100% whats the point of having a dog then or leaving them alone together.
But i don't know others kids well enough to trust them & would never leave my dog out of my eye sight when it comes to other kids visiting our house etc, i'm not going to take the risk of some other little **** head kid hurting my dog etc.
I do tell other kids out in public etc "no you cant pat my dog or go near my dog" because i don't trust some kids at all, some kids just don't know how to act or behave around dogs or how to safety approach dogs.
I retract my statement on unprevoked attacks. They do happen.
"In a developing story, a dog described as a "family dog" attacked a 20-month-old child in Angelina County. The girl was taken to the hospital after a call to authorities came in, said county Animal Control Officer Melanie Wade. Authorities do not know why the dog attacked. Wade said, "It might have been another dog in the yard." Details on the girl's condition and more information on the dog were not available."
"In the first fatality of 2008, an 8-month old boy was mauled to death by his family's Doberman pinscher while playing on the floor. It is unclear what might have provoked the dog, a 7-year old, neutered male named Macabee.
In the first fatality of 2008, an 8-month old boy was mauled to death by his family's Doberman pinscher while playing on the floor. It is unclear what might have provoked the dog, a 7-year old, neutered male named Macabee.
Toddler Andrew Stein was fatally bitten(removed disturbing information). The grandmother, who had been babysitting him, was in the kitchen at the time. She heard the child scream and ran to see what happened."
"A 5-year-old girl was hospitalized after a family member's dog bit her. A black chow-mix (removed info)
Though a less common breed, Chows consistently show up in US dog bite fatalities. The victims are frequently family members.
The child was in the family's backyard when she was bitten. The dog was chained up in her aunt's backyard, which is located next door but is not separated by a fence. McCalib said the child went up to the dog and may have been either trying to play with or pet it when she was bitten. Officers have no indication the child was taunting the dog."
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But you just said unprovoked attacks don't happen. Aw, why am i lost again?
look, IMHO there is ALWAYS a reason a dog attacks. Just cause we as humans don't always know the answer, doesn't mean there wasn't a reason in the dog's eyes, no matter how silly or obscure.
Take the member who today is having her little dog's tail amputated cause some GSD was let loose at the beach. She covered her dog to try and protect it, her dog bit her again and again. I'm sure her dog has never done that before. But I'm sure her dog has never been attacked before and been in such shock either.
Come on Myf, you're a vet nurse, you must have known dogs that you see in the surgery regularly, yet when involved in a car accident or similar they will take your arm off if you touch them - they're in pain, shock, a whole gamult of emotions, and act accordingly. Heck, us humans can act like that at times too in modes of shock, pain, fear etc...
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