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Just come across this topic and thought I'd weigh in.
Firstly a pure Amstaf and APBT cannot be separated in breed per se by DNA as the Amstaf come about through breeders who bred APBT for conformation and color based I believe on the old Colby dogs, where other dogmen continued to breed for gameness and working ability giving the working dogs a less uniformed appearance. Eventually the Amstaf become a stand alone breed. You could theoretically DNA test 2 dogs to find out paternity but since the APBT is not recognised by the AKC it would be pointless.
The Ambully is not an American Bulldog they are quite different. The American Bulldog is a much more athletic dog where the Ambully (imo a poor version of the Bandog) is the hippo looking abomination that contains numerous out crosses.
The Blue dogs are still a hot topic of debate generally believed to have come from out crosses to Neo Mastiffs for the color then bred back to Amstaf's and APBT's and so on till the desired look was acheived, not to say there are NO genuine blues, there was a scottish line of APBT that produced the rare blue dog but nowhere near enough to support the explosion of blue dogs.
As for papers they are only that, paper. There are of course honest breeders who dont hang papers, but it has been done since the registeries have existed. For pedlers its not hard to say yeah this dogs the sire when it could be another dog of the same or similar color etc, unless you witnessed the breeding how do you know? (without expensive DNA testing that the breeder would have to agree to, if they have hung papers it would be very unlikely).
At the end of the day do your homework and stick with people you can trust.
Last edited by Clutch; 03-20-2010 at 08:54 PM.
cough pins false papers cough on anything that takes cough cough his fancy.
have a litter of 5 claim u have a litter or 10 you are now in possession of 5 sets of papers to pin to what ever you like!
I have had fun laughing at some of these rubbish comments about Andonas Kennels! I have personally visited Andonas Kennels along with my family and a couple of my friends, And I have to say It was the best American Staffys I have ever come accross! The best set up and the best hospitality from Theo. The quality of these dogs were outstanding! Over the years we have ended up with 3 beautiful Amstaffs, Theo helped us all the way to pick exacully the puppy we were after! He was spot on with our requests. He is the man for the job! X-army officer and Dog trainer! With lots of love for dogs Theo is the only breeder who sold American staffys back to AMERICA! What more can you ask??????? Theo produces some of the biggest and the best American Staffys in Australia look at WARRIOR, look at BODYGUARD, look at PREDITOR, look at WEAPON! look at HITLER!!! (which is my beautiful boy) and ALL his boys.... they look Handmade!
When I visited the Kennels I didnt see any pitbulls, I didnt see any dogs that look like pitbulls the only thing i saw were Incredible looking Amstaffs!!!!!
Thats why when I read all these comments I know %110 that this comes from jelousy from other breeders which can not reach the quality Andonas Kennels provides in there bloodlines and lives up too! if i was a breeder i would be jelous aswell! Well done Theo! you should be proud for what you own and what you have breed over the years!
You called your dog Hitler???!!! I fear this is not a bad joke....
I've said it once and I'll say it again.
1 time newbie posters coming on giving glowing reviews about a kennel mean jack-sh!t.
Naming dogs "bodyguard", "weapon" and "hitler" just shows the mentality of these people.
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Fishing are we?
Haha wont get a bite out of me!
By the way, Ive personally been there too.
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