Last edited by Cleasanta; 06-09-2010 at 12:28 PM.
I can honestly say I have never usde a Gentle Leader, or any form of head harness, or any other harness before in my whole life - until a couple of weeks ago.
Someone on the forum mentioned the Sense-ation dog harness, which goes under the chest with the actual lead attached in the front mid-chest. I purchased one from the supplier they mentioned in Adelaide.
The reason I have NEVER used any of these things before is because ALL my dogs were trained to heel perfectly whilst still a puppy, and I never had an ounce of trouble, pulling or anything else from them.
Zed however was a 3 year old show-dog who naturally had spent his life running out on lead for the show-ring. He had never learnt to 'heel' at thigh or do any of the other requirements with heeling, such as circling, turning or sitting when the owner stops etc...
So that is the ONLY experience I have with one. Got to use it for a week, and well, you all know he's been returned.
Next dog we get will be a puppy (as usual) and he/she will be trained to heel straight up, so I don't see that I will have any need for this brand new harness. (Hey, should see if anyone here wants to buy it at a HUGE discount???)
Having said that Cleasanta, the original photo of the prong collar blew me away - once again, ignorant of the unknown. But hey, I've used check chains throughout my life, so who knows...
One thing I can say; if I even own a dog that nothing works for, then yes, I would give absolutely EVERYTHING a try, no doubt about it.
i have a sensible harness for my husky, even though i took her to training she still pulls on lead but with the chest harness she is great
The first time I saw a prong collar (earlier this year at a pet supply store) I was horrified. I thought how could anyone use such a barbaric thing on their dog? But after reading a post by K9 on how to use one I had a better understanding. I agree that people shouldn't judge until they've used something. Trying it on yourself is a good idea (as Occy did). I know I would try every avenue.
I can't remember what I initially thought about haltis/gentle leaders. When I first got Taya I bought a Halti because she pulled quite a bit and I wasn't going to put up with that! When I met her at the shelter they said she walks well on a loose lead but obviously it's different in the big world out there! She hated it at first but soon got used to it. After a while (about 8 months?) I tried walking her without it and she was much better. Nowadays she still might try and pull, but I just give a quick yank on lead and she comes back to me; she knows she's not allowed to pull.
I know a lot of people think the halti is a muzzle!
I have a 6 year old beagle who was a bit of a problem on the lead at first. I got him at 14 weeks old and started to train him immediately.
the main problem was that he'd be nose down trying to go 100mph on a scent. i tried luring him with food on the flat collar, praise and treats when he walked well (which was usually once he got a bit tired and settled down). Basically the satisfaction he got from sniffing that scent was his reason for living. no treats or praise or play could beat that.
enter the Halti. having seen them on tv or online or somewhere i decided to give one a go when i found one at big W. it is the halti brand one.
put it on jasper after spending a lot of time getting it to fit just nice. he fought against and shook his head for about 5 minutes as it was a new feeling. then off we went with him walking beautifully within one block.
he could breathe nicely, it allowed him to get his nose to the ground andreally get focused on the scent. the gentle corrections which always turn the head back towards you and slows their momentum was great. he soon learned that if the leash was loose he was free to really get into that scent and enjoy his walk.
also was great for when we walked past other dogs, it gave me good control and i was able to gently keep jaspers head focussed forward, he soon learned i wanted him to ignore other dogs, unless i asked him to meet one. best thing ever for this dog.
every dog dog is different, and their are many alternatives out there. in my opinion a halti is a option that is definately worth trying if you find yourself in a situation where you think it might help. if you do use one buy a good quality, well fitting one.
I have a high strung dog and have used the halti type head collar but decided I might do damage to her neck if we continued, only because she would pull through it and being an excitable dog could take of any second.... We used the Black Dog halter and also a halti.
I believe on the right dog the halti is a great tool... I have seen it work on heaps of dogs including a 6yr old full male ridgeback with no training... It just was not the right tool for my dog.
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