There is the occassional accidental crossing but mainly the working breeders stick to their breeds and the working BCs and Kelpies are usually pure. This again is for the reason of knowing the ancestory of each dog and the attributes of its lineage and health issues if any. A top line working dog from proven and known ancestory and lineage will bring many thousands of dollars a crossbred not. Individual farmers may cross dogs to breed what they are looking for and shoot what doesnt work but the working breeders that I know dont. If you are looking for a top dog you will look at the proven lines with known charateristics. These dogs are all purebred dogs many with long pedigrees but they are not ANKC pedigrees.
A working dog of unknown parentage can be registered on a working register on its merrit and can be included in a breeding program but generally the breeders stick within their breeds. Most working dogs around here are either purebred working kelpies or Border collies.
Last edited by Kalacreek; 12-02-2010 at 11:38 PM.
Thanks for that KC I have only a rather hazy knowledge of the working registries, so find your post very interesting, possibly because I am no longer on the land in any big way I am out of touch with things as they are now, as a younger person in our area there were few who had dogs of known linage mainly due to isolation I guess, certain dogs would gain a reputation in their area and neighbours would be keen to use those dogs regardless of the breed of their bitch as long as it was their best worker they would breed to the good dog.
Or a drover with an exceptional dog would scatter litters as he went from one area to another, thus many good lines existed but without proper paperwork kept.
It is interesting that the public gets to think ANKC breeds only to better the breed, it is in their rules, it is sad that this is not always the case, no doubt why the working registries exist and are so respected.
As to dumpage rates AusieMF , we should study Holland, they do not desex dogs unless they have a medical reason to, yet they have extremely low dumpage rates per head of population compared to us, I suspect that it has a lot to do with educating people, you apparently need to do a course of some sort to become a dog owner over there, if it works for them perhaps we need to find out more about what they are doing and follow their lead, our methods are not working, it is owners who dump dogs after all not breeders, trying to stop breeding will not change people as owners, if owners had to be more responsible there would be A less demand for pups, and B they would not be dumping their dogs.
Breeders do not breed what they cannot sell, make it harder to own a dog and there will be fewer, but more responsible owners, and thus fewer dumped
The difference back then was there was a very high cull rate, so only the best survived and morphed into breeds once the sought after characteristics became more reliably heritable. What didnt work out was quickly dispatched and that still happens today.
Working dog breeders however will keep their breeds and lines pure to make sure certain qualities remain heritable and become features of certain lines.
As to the Dutch and Scandanavian model of making it hard to breed dogs. Germany is the same - you can only breed dogs if you have gone through lots of hoops that are rigourously enforced, that would be good. Trouble is I dont see it happening here any time soon. Australians have a completely different psyche to these nations.
I just wanted to say..
I wouldn't like it, if my mum or dad cut of my testes so i couldn't have a kid or kids.
Haha oh dear, we have another one of 'those' people.
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