I have owned all manner of GSDs - x bred, byb, pure bred.
Barack - pure bred - NOT desexed - died of testicular/prostate cancer - back in the early 90s - my parents dog - he was 10 - pedigree
Billie - pure bred GSP - pts after having two strokes - 14 - rescue
Sandy - x bred gsd - pts once her mind had gone - had had two strokes as well - 14 - rescue
Cappy - Pure bred - died of a rare cancer this year - 11 and a bit -pedigree dog
Flash - pure bred - died of haemangiosarcoma this year - 11 - rescue - BYB
Billie - GSD or X - died of a rare cancer a week after Flash - 10 years old - rescue - BYB
And then there is mums current dog - a GSD x heeler who has inoperable cancer - he is 11 atm.
Hibrid vigour is a myth. Yes - small gene pools are dangerous - but so are wide ones done with no thought to health or temperament.
I lost 3 dogs this year - a pure bred papered dog, a pure bred BYB and another BYB of dubious origin - you tell me - where is the hibrid vigour?
Oh - my first shep was pure bred - he died at 18...
If your dog is going to become part of your program then of course he should not be desexed.
Peter - nice try - but I don't bite - sorry matey...
If your dog is going to be used to better your breed - great - however, you weren't the target of the comments made earlier.
I have rescued x breeds - I had a JRT x heeler here last year - and I have moggie kittens as well - though the vet reckons they have some oriental in them. I have nothing against the animals themselves - however give me the person that bred them and I would probably feel differently.
There is no reason on earth for x bred and oodles - aside from the fact ppl state they don't like how poodles look and want a dog that is allergy free - well buddy - research would tell you - getting that oodle is rare!!
I don't think the dogs alive should be punished - but I would like to see every dog not used as part of a genuine breeding program desexed by the time it is 1 - for a small dog - and 18 months for a large dog
Sure cross breeds bring all the things you mention...they also bring clogged up pounds...doubled up health issues...no way of tracking temperament and health issues...no health testing etc etc.
We are talking about the REASONS to breed cross breeds/designer breeds. There are no reasons other than financial ones or irresponsible ones for having an OOPS litter from entire bitches/dogs....or quite intentional ones because you can!
Would I be WAY out of line if I assumed that 80% or more of puppies/dogs who end up in pounds/shelters etc are cross breeds of some kind. Remember I said I assume...perhaps some of the people who work in rescue etc could enlighten us on the % of cross breeds versus pure breeds coming through rescues etc.
I what I assume is correct...then cross breeding is a big reason for over populated pounds...shelters...massive amount of PTS a year.
Thanks Occy I respect your opinion.
We're still on the fence about desexing Griffen we have been advised to wait untill he's 2 years old before deciding (he turns 2 this friday)
There's pro's and cons to both sides I think.
Has he been in the ring? Have any breeders had a good look at him? Has ge been health and genetic tested?
Sandy had the most gorgeous temperament and would have made an ace mother - in fact I am fairly sure she was one before I got her- Billie the second, too.n But they were x bred or byb so they were desexed when they got here.
Not desexing at an early age meant that Billie dog was riddled with cancer when i got her - it's amazing that it wasnt that cancer that killed her!
So how do you decide if Griffen is good for breeding? Will you get him assessed by someone? Just interested how it all works
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