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    Quote Originally Posted by von1976 View Post
    I would be very happy to get to the point where Koda is now, ie Where she can also sit and learn to ignore other dogs too without having to necessarily interact.
    My brother has a dog friendly cafe in brisbane, im on the gold coast. I used to bring mischa there often on weekends, and now i havent been back there since january because it would just be a frenzy, because their cafe is always full of dogs all day. In contrast, the dog friendly cafes here on the coast, you’d be lucky to see 1 or 2 dogs so im here more often.

    I can understand what you’re saying about Koda from day 1 too, and in hindsight I think Mischa was similar but more in the dominant sense. She was always one of those pups that when she wanted to play she was very pushy about it. Before I brought her home at 8 weeks old, I was petsitting a 5 month old GSD Bailey for 6 weeks, but only 3 days a week. In the fourth week when I brought mischa home, she was already being bossy towards Bailey even from inside her crate.

    I was planning on getting a male pup next year from my same breeder. She did warn me, which I already knew, that she wouldnt sell me another until I had mischas problems under control. More incentive to not give up and try extra hard!


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    I would be cautious buying another pup from the same breeder... Behavioural issues can be genetic so If I were you I'd either find a different breeder who's dogs are clearly good doggy citizens or I would hang out with your breeder and their dogs a bit more and assess the temperaments of the dogs they have to make sure the parents have good temps as well!

    I hope to one day get another Australian Shepherd (probably many years away)... I've done countless hours of research into Koda's pedigree and what lines he comes from and I will be steering away from his lines as I've heard of quite a few Aussies with aggression/reactive issues and many of them are from that broad line of dogs. I've found a bunch of breeders who seem to have a different line of Aussies going and I'm very impressed with them... hopefully my next future Aussie will come from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfsie View Post
    I dont do off leash parks unless i have a client who uses them and i don't suggest off leash park...... only if i could pick my dogs to go in with would I have fun. They are too unpredictable. If i had my way i would make two rules..... No toys in an off leash park and no kids.... the socialising and the sniffing and being in a new place should be enough for dogs. So many fights are started in an off leash park over property... be it ball, toy or stick. And well kids, We, if we go to the dog park, should be able to relax and kids in the dog park are not a safe part of that.

    I also use the outside of parks for training with some dogs. but i prefer to pick my off leash dogs. We go quite often with a pack of dogs water training and in the end they all go off leash and run around. tired but ready for play after work.

    Be very careful in off leash dog parks with fear aggressive dogs..... they never get over the fear aggression, you just need and learn to manage it. Sound like you are managing it, well done to you and your trainer
    I have decided i will continue to go,BUT, only if I see other owners and dogs that I know dont have a problem with mischa, ie from yesterday when I first arrived and 1 that I remember back in december before the issue started. Also neighbour in my estate has a GSD too, we have made a plan to message each other if one of us is going there.

    I am really trying my best. Mischa was also very hostile towards kids, dogs and loud trucks coming past my house. Im in the front room facing the street all day 4 days a week as I work from home so mischa likes to keep me company there. It went from jumping up on the window and getting agro at anything going past, to now sitting and observing 95% of the time. She still gets angry with loud trucks or boisterous kids running sometimes but a stern “leave it” if I can see them coming does the trick. Im very proud of her progress so far. But I know we still have a very long road ahead.


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    Quote Originally Posted by maddogdodge View Post
    I would be cautious buying another pup from the same breeder... Behavioural issues can be genetic so If I were you I'd either find a different breeder who's dogs are clearly good doggy citizens or I would hang out with your breeder and their dogs a bit more and assess the temperaments of the dogs they have to make sure the parents have good temps as well!

    I hope to one day get another Australian Shepherd (probably many years away)... I've done countless hours of research into Koda's pedigree and what lines he comes from and I will be steering away from his lines as I've heard of quite a few Aussies with aggression/reactive issues and many of them are from that broad line of dogs. I've found a bunch of breeders who seem to have a different line of Aussies going and I'm very impressed with them... hopefully my next future Aussie will come from them.
    I’ve seen my breeders other dogs several times. I buy my kibble from her at a discount so im there often and know her and the dogs well. I did see her for a preliminary visit too before i picked mischa up.

    On the day of purchase, we went through mischa’s lineage and other stuff for hours. I trust her wholeheartedly, shes been breeding sheps for nearly 30 years and is going to retire soon, so wanted to get another before she “shuts up shop” so to speak.


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    Quote Originally Posted by von1976 View Post
    I’ve seen my breeders other dogs several times. I buy my kibble from her at a discount so im there often and know her and the dogs well. I did see her for a preliminary visit too before i picked mischa up.

    On the day of purchase, we went through mischa’s lineage and other stuff for hours. I trust her wholeheartedly, shes been breeding sheps for nearly 30 years and is going to retire soon, so wanted to get another before she “shuts up shop” so to speak.


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    Bit late to the party, but I have followed a similar strategy with my dog Banjo as you are doing and I would not recommend it at all.

    I started taking her to the dog park because she was starting to show signs of intolerance of other dogs, thinking that she'd get used to being around other dogs that way.

    But it only made it worse. Especially because there was always that one dog that was rude and ignored her body language (that bit is really damaging imo) but also because I probably felt nervous about the other owners' reactions to me taking her in on lead and to her inevitable bitchy reaction to their dogs and she would have fed off that too.

    When I realised I wasn't making any progress that way, I booked a session with a behavioural trainer. I still thought that my aim was to get her back to how she used to be. When she seemed to get along with any and every dog she met.

    The trainer taught me some useful exercises. But I think what helped most was her explaining that there may be a logical reason for older dogs not wanting to socialise with strange dogs (in my case it related to older desexed bitches), that her aggressive reactions to dogs that ignore her back off signs was justified and that it should be her choice whether she wants to "like" strange dogs or not.

    That's when I stopped caring about her being the type of dog that plays with everyone at the dog park and I stopped going. (We still occasionally visited early in the morning when there was only one or two other dogs in there.)

    I still take her to unfenced off leash areas daily (we have heaps here), usually ones where we rarely meet anyone else, but sometimes I'll go to busier spots and she's pretty much ok. I still have to micromanage her interactions with strange dogs and occasionally we still get a minor scuffle, but I do not at all stress over it anymore.

    I also got a second dog. And neither of them feel a need to interact with dogs they don't already know. They're both fine with my friends' dogs though.

    It does remind me of how the whole dominance theory myth started all those years ago. Based on a study of wolves that were kept in captivity in an artificially created pack. I don't think dogs were really made to socialise with random other dogs (though some don't seem to mind). Just like some people don't like making small talk to strangers at events!

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