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    Hi all,

    Just wanting to check in as we have a 6.5 week old border collie puppy who we've had for less than a week. We've been amazed that from only his second night with us he is sleeping peacefully a full night from about 10.30-11pm to 5am in his crate next to our bed with no crying at all and no soiling his crate. My husband puts him to bed the same time he goes and sleeps the same side of the bed the crate is. He puts the crate up against the bed with one gate open, so the pup can't get out but hubby can stroke him if need be - which is only for about a minutes until the pup chills...then he's no problem all night!

    He's normally vocal during the day when he wants to go outside for toilet, or makes it fairly clear with his actions, so we're amazed he goes all night so easily at such a young age. With all you read online about puppies, we were gearing up for hourly trips outside with him at night but he's been so good once we started him sleeping in our room in his crate...a crate we only introduced to him 5 days ago!

    We do stop feeding him water and food from 7pm onwards and take him outside many time throughout the day for toilet and play breaks, so maybe this is helping him go to bed on an empty bladder and tire him out.

    We're assuming he's just very happy with us, but just wanted feedback from other border collie owners to get their take on this great behaviour so far????

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    Taking water away at 7pm would be contributing to this behaviour for sure! Sounds like you got lucky though.

    So you've had him for 5 days? So he would have been about 6 weeks when you got him? 6 weeks old is way too young for a pup to leave the mum. They should stay with their mum until 8 weeks minimum (10-12 weeks is even better). I know in Victoria (and I assume all Australia) pups are not allowed to be sold before 8 weeks of age. You'll have to be careful with him, leaving the mum too early can promote behavioural problems later on. Do lots of socialisation with him, carry him around places until he's fully vaccinated. You need to get him out meeting people and meeting known vaccinated dogs. The few extra weeks that most pups get with their mum, the mum teaches them crucial doggy manners and behaviour. Your pup would have missed out on these so it's up to you to give him safe opportunities for him to learn.

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    Not a border collie ,but my 16 week old staffy pup now sleeps on my bed around 5 nights out of 7. Started doing this 3 weeks ago, and he has NEVER had an accident whilst sleeping on my bed. I have stretched him from 11pm to 7am once (accidentally slept through alarm), but usually I'll take him out once in between. I take his water bowl away at 9pm.

    When he is left in the section of the house to sleep by himself (its a large room with tiles), he still very occasionally wees or poops inside. BUT he wees and poops right on the door mat or next to the door mat. He obviously wants to go out but I'm not hearing his call from my bedroom.

    I'm not keen for him to sleep on my bed 7 nights a week as I don't want him to develop separation anxiety.

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    My 18 week boy sleeps in a crate in the lounge. Just graduated from the puppy pen with bed and indoor toilet in the bathroom.

    I don't let him sleep in my room because I don't want to encourage his separation anxiety.

    He is holding it for a good eight to nine hours for bed time. He won't go in the crate because it is his bed.

    During the day I still need to give him a potty break every hour or so but that's because he's not quite mastered TELLING me he wants out.

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    He won't go in the crate because it is his bed.
    I misread that as you couldn't get him to be inside the crate instead of he won't toilet in the crate...

    oops.

    My dog since small - sleeps next to my bed - originally in a cardboard box lined with rags cos she chewed everything... And I had a lead on her attached to me (well under me to the other side of my bed - so if she did get up she'd wake me up. But all she'd have to do is get up and step out the box and I'd wake up, take her outside and act boring while she toileted... I also set an alarm for two wake ups in the middle of the night. eg 10:30pm pre bed pitstop, 1am early pitstop, 4am later pit stop... 6am get up pit stop...
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    I have had 3 Border collies and they have all been like this. I sleep them in a box or crate next to my bed and usually take them out once during the night when they are very young. It is very good to crate train a young puppy. Mine love their crates and will preferentially sleep in them. In fact all my dogs over the years- all herding breeds have been like this.

    I agree he was really too young to be taken from his mum but he is with you now so moving forward. So now you have him as mentioned make sure he gets socialisation opportunities but never put him in an overwhelming situations that may scare him as this can be worse than no socialisation. Hopefully he has been raised in a home situation and had some gentle exposure to different things by his breeder. He does need exposure to different people and dogs but don't let people manhandle him or other dogs jump on him if he is feeling uncomfortable, always keep an eye on his body language. Reinforce with plenty of praise or little treats when he is doing things that you like.

    As he grows and becomes more confident prepare for him to start testing the boundaries and becoming very active. My collies have been full on as they have grown and I have done quite a bit training involving a lot of short sessions of mental stimulation and having fun with them doing it.

    I am sure he is happy and you are making him feel safe and secure and teaching him good toilet and crate habits. Prepare for a wild but fun ride as he grows!

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