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    Default Is it ok to breed?

    My pedigreed main registered bitch and the intended main registered sire share the same great grandparents.

    The great grandparents of my bitch are on the her fathers side and the intended sire is or his mothers side.

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    Join Date
    Aug 2009


    What does your dog's breeder say about it?

    Personally - and I'm not a genetics expert - I'd rather not be breeding cousins if it's possible to avoid - tho they're relatively distant cousins.

    What would be more relevant would be - what genetic diseases is your breed prone to getting - and do your bitch and intended sire - have these genes - cos if you've got the same bad gene on both male and female side - then the puppies will have it too so if it's something like PRA - you're going to get puppies that go blind.

    So this is something you could ask a vet that specialises in genetics - what tests are relevant to your breed - get them done on both the male and female in the intended pairing to work out how likely you are to be passing on bad genes.

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    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    melbourne australia


    I have no idea. But i think its great you are at least trying to do the right thing. Thankyou. There's a trait you want to see in potential breeders.
    Im sure there are rules, and other wiill advise
    what breed, out of curiosity, rather than it matters

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    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Rural Western Australia


    Certainly in working dogs it is not uncommon to have a certain amount of inbreeding when trying to fix certain working traits, but it requires specific knowledge about heritibility.

    I think you probably need to ask yourself the question as to why you want to breed them and what qualities do the lines bring to the breeding and are there specific traits that the common lines bring to the table.

    So you need to know why you have selected that particular pairing rather than ask us if it is okay to breed because that is an unanswerable question without any knowledge of what the breed is and why you are wanting to breed that pair.. You need to review the health testing that has been done on each ancestor as well and learn a bit about inbreeding coefficients, heritibility etc. Only then will you have your answer.

    Just because they are both main registered pedigree doesnt mean the breeding is okay. I have main registered dogs that I wouldnt breed for various reasons.
    Last edited by Kalacreek; 08-27-2015 at 11:40 PM.

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    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Geelong, Vic


    It can be good or it can be horrific. In my Malinois my bitch has the same grandfather on both sides, and in my male his grandfather is also his great grandfather (same for the grandmother) The two are not directly related so will be mated as we cannot breed any closer then this. In both dogs the close matings have created super, healthy and strong animals. I know what I am going to get from the litter, first litter will be smaller, second will be about average and most will be black overlay.

    On the other hand my dobermann pup is triple bred on the same dog, grandfather x1 and great grandfather x2. Temperament wise it's a disaster. Physically (for me anyway) she's not what a dobermann should be as she's strongly bred on that lean, swan necked, long faced American show lines. She is exhibiting the same struggle eating from a floor height bowl as her father has due to the structure of the neck. I did not want this mating to occur but one of my clients decided it was a fabulous idea then left the bitch to her own devices to raise the pups. None of them are anything to write home about in the slightest.

    You need to think, what do I want to produce, and what is behind my dogs. Apart from that you are asking how long is a piece of string.

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    personaly, I wouldn't do it if the qualities you want can be found else where.

    Line breeding works for predictability, until it doesn't any more. Usualy through a loss of vitality and ill health.

    Looking else where gives more possible modes of inhertiance for those qualities you value further down the track, with less chance of deleterous genes being doubled up.

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