I still think you are misinterpreting what I say.
I stand by my comment you don't NEED a pedigree. I didn't say you JUST need to judge the dog in front of you. I said the more, the better meaning any surviving relatives etc that can add to the picture. A pedigree is huge bonus, If its available.
You can have a good dog with out a pedigree. I guess you can have a pedigree with out a dog, but its kind of superfluous then. I believe the dog always comes 1st.
A pedigree is needed if you have a breed .But all breeds started with a dog, not with a recorded pedigree. If a pedigree is needed 1st, then you rule out any further breed development unless its going to start with already closed and restricted lines and possibilities. Research and development using only whats already there and results pre-determined? Thats not reseach and development by my reckoning. Its a dead end, and creating your own science as you go with a very limmited and pre-detrmined focus.
That says, " This is our direction and we will disregard what doesn't fit, or eliminate it." A science of making it fit. Chisel off the edges and you can make a square peg fit a round hole. But it won't fill the gaps.
Yes, I am "hung up" on the ANKC style pedigree. They adversely affect the breeding of all dogs, because they are antagonistic to any breeding that does not take place within their own system.
I thought I made it clear I have no problem with open, working registries. They are not part of the problem. I am not attacking pedigrees.
I am only critical of an organisation that promotes the idea what people do and how they do it is automaticaly wrong and unethical .
Unless its done within their ranks and has their own documentation to prove it.
The K.C pedigree comes before the dog, or any practices or knowledge will be discussed. Practices are secondary to the pedigree and I can't agree with that when its practices, to me, that define a good breeder and the chance they will be successful, or not.
Not the pedigree.
The pedigree, without good practices, can possibly be just a record of how we went wrong. And if we are not permitted anything to compare it to, who is to say theres anything wrong with it at all?
Kala, the registry you support recognises this, or they would also be closed registry, maybe even forbidding members to breed out side of their own protocols
Edited because I keep timing out.