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    Does anyone know of a breeder who has Cockaliers (Cavalier + Cocker Spaniel) in Perth?

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    Claire

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    Only puppy mills or puppy factories have those.

    Are you sure you want a puppy from one of those places.

    Where they do no health tests to make sure that your dog doesn't have preventable genetic diseases (and you don't automatically get rid of those by cross breeding - sometimes you can still double up on a bad gene)

    Disorders by Breed - Cavalier King Charles spaniel - LIDA Dogs - Faculty of Veterinary Science - The University of Sydney

    Disorders by Breed - Cocker spaniel - LIDA Dogs - Faculty of Veterinary Science - The University of Sydney

    Eg PRA and cataracts are on both lists and quite easily tested for.

    And people breeding for profit - often have so many puppies that the puppies do not get socialised with people enough - so they're terrified of people and take a long time to settle in. Some of them get taken away from their litter and their mum too young - so they have no dog manners either and this means you can't take your dog for a walk because it can't get along with dogs or people.

    And don't get me started on how some puppy farms keep their dogs in extremely unhygienic unhealthy conditions. Some of them will give you a puppy that has parvo and fleas and mange. The parvo will kill the puppy.

    How to choose a good dog breeder? You want one that will let you visit their place and see how they keep their dogs and how much social interaction their dogs get with other dogs and with people. And you want to see how clean it is.

    Does the breeder ask you lots of questions? Are they willing to answer your questions. Will they take their dog back if you can't keep it for whatever reason and can't find a new home for it on your own?

    Getting a Dog Tips - Checklist for the Responsible Breeder

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    Thanks for the response. To be clear, are you saying that I should only look at getting a purebred Cavalier or Cocker Spaniel, but not a cross? I don't want to support puppy factories, but thought that there might be reputable (and responsible) cross breeders. Appreciate your advice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire Duffy View Post
    Thanks for the response. To be clear, are you saying that I should only look at getting a purebred Cavalier or Cocker Spaniel, but not a cross? I don't want to support puppy factories, but thought that there might be reputable (and responsible) cross breeders. Appreciate your advice!
    Because of the apparent high demand for some of these crosses I think quite a lot of the crossbreeders of designer dogs do so at minimum investment into the welfare of the dogs to make as much money as possible. unfortunately there is no real governing body for crossbreeders so they more or less do what they like and breed as young and as many litters as they want from a bitch and can sell to pet shops. They also usually charge ridciulously high prices. You could likely get a purebred form a reputable breeder with all the health screening often for less money.

    I guess there are efforts to restrict some of these activities happening around the country

    To be a reputable breeder takes a lot of investment into genetic screening, understanding of dog structure and temperament and good socialisation of puppies. Also care and welfare of the parents, Screening of potential buyers and the commitment to make sure no dog you have bred ends up in rescue. You need to check all this out to your satisfaction. If you find a breeder go and look at the premises, ask what screening they do, ask to view the certificates and look at where the puppies are being raised etc. Meet the parents etc.

    I dont know if there are such breeders of this crossbreed in Perth

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    I would definitely either stick with a Cavalier or Spaniel
    If you're absolutely set on a crossbreed then I suggest looking into rescue there are both cavalier and spaniel rescue groups (just Google ) as well as thousands of dogs on PetRescue - Inspired by unconditional love - PetRescue who are looking for a new home. I have a cavalier cross cattle dog rescue and she is the sweetest, most wonderful dog ever!

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    I'm having technical problems trying to post what I want to say about this... so I will try in bits.

    There might be reputable and responsible cross breeders but so far - I've not encountered any that I'd rate as that based on the RSPCA responsible breeder criteria or even a few of the criteria on the link I gave.

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    Some of the designer dog breeders say they are responsible and they have clean kennels for their bitches and puppies and plenty of food and water. One (in Victoria) even lets people go out and see.

    But the dogs do not get DNA health tested before they are mated to avoid the common (between breeds) genetic diseases, and they and their puppies do not get enough socialisation. YOu need to actually see the documentation with the DNA results for both parent dogs. If the breeder won't send you copies or let you see them at all - find a different breeder.

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    A very experienced friend of mine from dog training was telling me that she had found a cross breeder in WA who was doing all the right things and I trust her judgement. I cant remember the details of the dogs because they were breeds I have no interest in, being a working dog person.

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