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    Hello everyone
    My name is Brian and I'm 14.
    Thinking of getting a dog in the next year or so, so I'm researching my favorite dog breeds.
    I'm stuck between a Japanese Spitz and a Siberan Husky.
    They are both so awesome haha.

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    Join Date
    Aug 2009


    Welcome Brian

    Hope you find the right dog for you.

    I think Japanese Spitz are incredibly cute. But way too hairy for me.

    Before you choose a puppy make sure the seller meets these criteria

    What is a responsible companion animal breeder? - RSPCA Australia knowledgebase
    A responsible companion animal breeder will:

    1. Conscientiously attempt to match the demand of animals with the supply - in this way they proactively avoid creating an oversupply of animals. Breeding too many animals would mean that some of them may be euthanased or end up at a shelter as an unwanted animal and responsible breeders try to avoid this as they have the animals welfare at heart.

    2. Provide a high standard of care and living conditions for their animals - animals are kept in a clean environment with adequate high quality food and water and are given the opportunity to exercise, play and lead a normal life.

    3. Demonstrate a genuine concern for the animals in their care - they tend to ask prospective buyers many questions and ensure that the new owner and the animal will be a good match. e.g. a working dog is only sold to a person who can provide this type of active dog with enough mental and physical activity.

    4. Be open and transparent and provides a complete history of the animal - the breeder will provide you with documentation relating to the animal and its parents, grandparents etc.

    5. Will be aware of any known inherited disorders for their particular breed and take active steps to reduce the incidence of that disorder in future offspring - the breeder screens breeding animals using available tests and avoids mating animals that are likely to produce sick offspring. They also avoid mating closely related animals.

    6. Provide ongoing support and information to the new owner - the breeder will give their full contact details and encourage you to call them if you have any questions of concerns.

    7. Will generally provide a guarantee (timeframes may vary) - the most responsible breeders will often ask you to bring the puppy back to them if it doesn't work out in order to avoid the puppy ending up at a shelter as an unwanted animal.

    8. Provide references on request - the breeder provides you with references form reputable sources such as their veterinarian or people who have purchased puppied form them in the past.

    10. Comply with the relevant local and state/territory legislation and codes of practice including any registration and licensing requirements.
    Try to meet the parent dogs - ideally both but at least the mother. Much less chance of buying from a puppy mill this way. And you get an idea of the potential temperament of the puppies (and the breeder) this way. And in some states - puppies must be at least 8 weeks, microchipped, vaccinated (at least the first of three vax required) and wormed. And this is a good idea with any puppy you get. Ie all the responsible breeders will offer this.

    Best place to research you fave breed - is to find the breed clubs in your area (capital city) and go visit some of their social days. The sled dog people often have sledding meets. Where the Sibes and other breeds - pull their owners along on "sleds" or scooters in snowless Australia...
    SA Sled Dog Club Home

    PS Find at least one recommendation that does not come from the breeder's own website. Pretty websites with lots of encouraging testimonals is no guarantee of a good breeder of healthy puppies.

    And get all promises that are important to you, from the breeder, in writing. Especially stuff about refunds and taking the puppy back and time frames if the puppy should prove to be unhealthy or just not what you expected.
    Last edited by Hyacinth; 09-25-2012 at 10:16 PM. Reason: JP <> JS

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    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Bundaberg QLD


    Gday Brian.
    Great to see ya doing some research mate. Hope ya get the dog ya want sooner or later. Just dont buy one from a pet shop...they are usually from puppy farms who treat thier breeding dogs terribly. As Hyacinth said, ya need to find a good breeder and that requires some research by itself. Good luck mate and ask as many questions as ya need to. There are lots of people here who will be able to help you with almost questions you have.

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  4. #4
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    SE QLD


    Hi Brian,

    Welcome to the forum. Do your parents have any input on which breed you will be getting? Not sure about these two, but you will need to look into exercise requirements, grooming, training etc. Will you have time to do these things every day with school and homework, plus working and socialising? Also as far as I am aware most councils require someone to be 16 before they are able to be in complete control of an animal, like walking etc (if this is no longer the case... someone correct me )

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

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    Hey guys
    Thanks for the warm welcome haha.
    Yes, i think i will be getting a JS and I've found some breeders in NSW already. I think i will be taking care of the puppy, and when i have exams or something, my parents or brothers will take him/her out for a walk.
    Oh, I didn't think about getting written statements from the breeder. I should write that down in case i forget when the time comes for me to get a puppy.
    Again, thanks for the warm welcome and all the information

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    Join Date
    Aug 2011


    Hi Brian!

    I think a Siberian Husky would be a bit hard as a first dog. Mainly because lots of people find them intimidating, which can make things trickier than with a less intimidating dog. You would find lots of people picking up their little dogs (or their kids!) when they see your dog approach for example. They would also be far less forgiving of even the little mistakes your dog might make while you are training him/her, like jumping up at people or such. And even though training and socialisation is very important for any dog, it does add extra pressure which you don't get with smaller and less powerful looking dogs.

    Good luck finding your pup!

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    Hello Beloz.
    So your saying that a larger dog would be slightly harder to train?
    I see... Um.. would you say a small - medium dog (Japanese Spitzz to be more specific) would be hard to train?
    I think I would be aiming for a Japanese Spitz for a first dog, than get a Husky a couple of years after...

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    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    melbourne australia


    Hiya Brian
    Japaneze Spitz and Husky are not first time dog owners dogs, generally. As they are very smart, and can outwit a novice easily. They tend to push you lots, if you dont have good leadership. And leadership comes with confidence and knowledge, somthing i did not have with my first dog.
    But its ok, just like human babies, your first one is there for you to make mistakes with and learn, then redo. Much better with the next.
    Nothing really to do with size. More to do with they are high maintenance training wise. And size wise, like any large dog, training will need to be well laid down and consolidated before teenage kicks in at 9 month of age.
    Japanese Spitz have breed specific legislation in UK, not sure about Aus. They are banned in uk in much same way as pitbulls are now band in victoria Aus. Due to some fighting dogs, and propaganda shite.

    I have a high octane dog. These dogs are high octane. they are diggers of dens. Large fat dens in a rose bed might not go down well with your mum lol
    But as with any high octane dog, providing you actually will keep the commitment to exercise your dogs mind and body EVERY SINGLE DAY, you wont hit to many problems.

    dog obedience training can be gained along with socialising at various training clubs, or your mates dogs that are dog friendly.
    ie. there are ways for offsetting problems before they begin.

    And if you get a dog that others are scared of. Your dog will get few opportunities to socialise
    Last edited by bernie; 09-27-2012 at 06:26 AM.

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    Join Date
    Aug 2009


    Hard to train?

    Lemme see - what do you want to train your dog to do?

    Huskies are notorious for having zero recall. It's possible - it's just harder. And it's even harder to train them to come away from something they regard as food or toy (eg a speeding small fluffy cat or rabbit).

    I don't know much about JS tho the ones I've seen do like to stick with their owners. I don't know if that's because the owners have been more dedicated about the training (eg a JS who does not stick with its owner would find a new home pretty easily aka get stolen cos they're so CUTE and so popular with dodgy breeders right now).

    So the easiest dog to train that I know about would be a well bred border collie. Because they're so willing to please and really good at figuring out what you want them to do. But the flip side to that is they're very demanding - that you give them a job, and most excellent at training their owners to do what the dog wants.

    A cavalier king charles on the other hand - is very willing to please but really slow at figuring out what you want them to do.

    And a Jack Russell terrier is very quick to figure out what you want and how to train you to do what it wants but it could care less about pleasing you most of the time. If there is some cool smell or rodent over there.

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    Oh i see.
    I wanted a Japanese Spitz because... I don't know.. they look .. awesome haha.
    And I've been researching and I think I may be alright with training him...
    Uhm.. I think when I get a dog I'll post up a thread and tell everyone how I go
    Thanks for all the help everyone

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