My dog is only 4 months old and I have already had people and there dogs turn and retreat when they see me walking my dog which makes me laugh, others hold there dogs at a distance and ask if he is a pit bull lol.
I took my dog for the first time to the local off leach park (show grounds) the other day, man was that an eye opener, in the first 30 seconds we were rushed by two big labs my boy with his tail between his legs didn't no what to do and when they started surrounding him to check him out he went into defense mode and growled and had a little snap at one of them before they ran back to there owner. He played well with the other dogs there and was quite bemused by other dogs who had the odd scuffle when playing. Now the bit that gets to me is those owners coming over to me and telling me what I should be doing with my puppy because he's one of those "breeds" get a life and keep your little fluff ball from being aggressive towards other dogs people.
I no my breed can be DA and I'm doing my best to socialize him but he has been constantly rushed by other dogs who show aggressive behavior and as you would expect he defends him self if threatened.
Sadly I don't think my dog is going to be an off leach park dog but I guess time will tell.
I think it is fairly normal for puppies to feel intimated by strange dogs. But I think it is very important to persist with taking him to places with other dogs. Ideally nice dogs with good doggy manners though. On the other hand, ifyou want to proof him against rude dogs as much as you can too. But I do know that the advice is to shield them from bad experiences with other dogs at first, so maybe that is a lesson best left till later?
Avoiding is no good, but puppy getting hurt is a disaster.
That is why I love Kennel Club nights...We get to know the dogs that come. Everyone knows my dogs are safe and friendly and there are a few others, so they can socialise new puppies or dogs. That is why even if you do not want to do Obedience it is good to go to Clubs. where there are lots of dogs. And hopefully some friendly trainers and other handlers with friendly dogs. Though I do know from personal experience that is not always so We also do extra night, for agility and Rally O on weekends. this only costs a membership and $3.00 a session, because the Instructors do it voluntarily.
I know even at our Club some people are not too friendly and their dogs are also aggressive, but I am sure there is nearly always a friendly lot too
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\The one that always somewhat annoys me is if there is a dog off leash and I start walking over with Banjo and then at the very last minute the other owner puts their dog on leash - without acknowledging us or giving an explanation.
Oh god that just pisses me off. I get that with Rexy. They take one look at him and they're off. The thing is, he couldn't really give two shits about any other dog - he's there to play with his ball and that's that. It's Molly i feel sorry for - she's the social butterfly and she gives me this look like 'why are we even here, there is nobody to play with!'
Newf: The post you described with Poor Tess & Annabelle is upsetting. What upsets me more is the 'shovel hitting' and the 'stomping on the throat' with the other dog. It just goes to show the lack of intelligence with the council ranger & dog owner. With our old pitties - which fortunately we never had a problem with, we always kept a stick or crow bar - to stick between the jaws to loosen them up if such a scenario ever happened. Hitting a dog is not how you break them up!
Recently we headed out to Nudgee (the mud pit lol) where a staffy got into it with a collie. The collie kept getting in the staffy's face - to which it gave warning growls and snarls for it to leave him alone - and more than a couple of times. Anyway in the end the staffy locked onto the collies face and all hell broke loose. Staffy's owner was whipping him with a chain, collies owner was booting the staffy in the side, other people came in to have multiple go's and i was screaming my fricken head off whilst holding rexy for everybody to get off this poor dog. My OH went over with a large stick, bunted the staffy's owner to the side & stuck it between his jaws to loosen him up. Good golly i was fuming, i really felt for this dog, not that he cared, he happily went off to play after that. Anyway my OH talked to this guy and told him to have a stick handy incase he ever finds himself in this situation again - cause whipping him with a chain isn't going to do shit.
I put my 2c in too. Told him to get a f'n brain, and learn about his own breed. Tosser.
I got the dogs apart by making them pick up the dog by the back legs...We had no wedge, which I know works, But the real fault was the owner who had the pitty loose on the back of the truck/ute.
Mind you I wonder how you would react if you were in the middle of nowhere , no equipment such as a wedge, and your dog was attacked. i have to be honest, I had no sympathy/empathy for the pitty...he came at my dogs off the back of that ute and we were just walking. I actually think the council guy was trying to save my dogs life. He had her by the neck and the same for the owner, they both tried to help my dog...it was scary and I will not ever blame that council worker, at least he came to help. had I had no help, I think Annabelle might have tied.........instead she had 120 stitches around her throat area and set my training back by about 6 month. I am amazed that she came back to being quite social with all types of dogs. Mind you ...she goes off when a dog is aggressive, hence she is always on lead and with us. She is great with good dogs.
I know how to handle dog fights, but I do not carry wedges or sticks or whatever.....I think basically everyone (except me) had decided the dog had to die ....I had no control after the cops came.
In the end the guy had to pay my $3000.00 vet fee and he was fined quite a bit....I never went to court. I think the young guy was devastated, he was very young and I felt sorry for him. I have since seen him with a Kelpie. I have spoken to him and petted his new dog. Some of life' lessons are very tough, I think he learned a lot that day.
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I fully agree newfie and i'm sorry if i upset you.
I just have no tolerance for those who decide to own such and breed, who are not prepared nor hold the knowledge to know what to do when your dog get's into such a situation. As i mentioned we never went anywhere without a crow bar or large stick with our Pitbulls - not because we thought they would attack, far from it. But incase we ever got into such a situation. I would think a council ranger would be more prepared and would carry such an item around. I do not condone any violence towards a dog whether it is in the wrong and may 'deserve' it. But in your case i guess there wasn't much else to do - not that i think it was right.
I havent read whole thread but thought I would reply.
Most people were scared of Lennox (boxer/staffy x). I even had a friend who knew him well walk into the back yard and when he bailed her up she was too scared to move (I wasnt there lol) despite knowing he was a nice dog. I had big maori guys walk into our property and when Lennox would come out barking they would bolt down the driveway and slam the gate. He wasnt big, I guess he just had a look about him, and a bloody good bark on him.
People are usually pretty scared of Barney. Hes pretty big and they tend to take a very wide berth round us on the footpath. He is also an excellent guard dog and makes it clearly obvious that unless you are with us, you are not entering our back yard. Even if hes just sitting there people will kind of "avoid" him...which is odd...coz he looks pretty labby.
So just wondering, is the common consensus here that if a dog annoys another dog and that dog defends itself by attacking and maybe seriously injuring or killing the annoyer...is that deserved or not and who is responsible for the vet bill in a case such as that?
Does it depend on where you are...off lead, on lead?
Just trying to work out what is acceptable behaviour at the dog area?
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