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    Quote Originally Posted by four socks View Post
    Have you tried to find out why, Deejay dose what he dose?
    Have you tried a behaviourist?
    Yes I have tried and they said he is too old to be trained (over the phone), although he is not that bad, as I said he hasnt snapped or bitten anyone before, its just the growling. The vets say to give him away or if no other option put him down.

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    IMO I don't think he is to old to be trained he's only 2y9m old?. How long has he been doing this for?
    Last edited by four socks; 07-26-2009 at 07:51 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by four socks View Post
    IMO I don't think he is to old to trained he's only 2y9m old?. How long has he been doing this for?
    He has been doing this ever since my child was born and he has growled at other small children that have poked and proded at his face ever since. Any tips? I would like to try anything you say!

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    There are other here with great advice just not on line yet I under stand your trying to do what's best for you child and deejay, I just think you should try everything possible before giving him away or putting him down. Just a thought post another thread asking for help on the problem explain what he is doing and see what you get you just maybe able to change things with deejay and not give him away

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    Quote Originally Posted by four socks View Post
    There are other here with great advice just not on line yet I under stand your trying to do what's best for you child and deejay, I just think you should try everything possible before giving him away or putting him down. Just a thought post another thread asking for help on the problem explain what he is doing and see what you get you just maybe able to change things with deejay and not give him away
    We have tried to resolve this problem but everything we have done seemed to make him any better for eg. we tried the dog whisper technique with the preasure points,firm hold and deep voice, walks, socielisation with other dogs, obedience. etc etc...I will post a new thread, I just dont want to get bombarded with critizism again!

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    But there is no harm in trying! At the end of the day it's your choice what you do. I've just tryed to help with fingers and paws crossed

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    People need to not jump in and tar people with one brush. Sometimes it is the best thing for both a dog and an owner or family to part ways. It is not neglectful. It is however, neglectful to ignore any isses and leave the dog in the backyard, tied up, take it to the pound etc.

    Moving a dog into a new home can make it's life easier and more pleasant. If a dog doesn't cope with the noise and general atmoshpere of kids it's not the dogs fault, and it's not necessarily the owner's fault.

    Yes many dogs end up in pounds when people have kids, but this is largely due to people's lack of knowledge, and having mismatched dogs that may not be best suited to their lifestyle. But also because they are wary of heading down the path of trying to rehome their dogs. There are far too many out there that are prepared to pass instant judgement and head hunt anyone who mentions re-homing their dog.

    People trying to do the right thing should not be criticised for it, they and their pets should be offered what support is available to get through what can be a difficult time.

    I'm sure there are rescuers or groups out there who could be offering to advertise this fellow on places like Petrescue, and contacting the owner to see if they can offer a good vet contact for desexing so that it gets done. They could be offering advice on what the owners should be looking for in a potential owner. There's a whole world of help that can be offered - but it's much easier to sit back and sneer.

    How about some constructive action, and not just mindless nit picking and broad sweeping opinions.

    People are not always bad until they prove otherwise.

    The OP has been put on the back foot from the start, which is unfair and unjustified.

    Stephandkash - stick around please. There is assistance available for you and your little boy.

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    Hey stephandkesh
    1. No one on here is talking about putting your pooch down but you
    2. If Deejay was really your "best friend" you would have socialized him around children/babies before getting pregnant or during pregnancy.
    3. In regards to "not recommending to leave him unattened with small children" - well, no dog should and no responsible dog owner or parent would.
    4. Deejay is not too old to be trained. Like you said he's a good little dog so with the right trainer/behaviourist it's not impossible to change his behaviour. It comes down to how much you want it.
    If it is all too hard however then yes, I give you credit for trying to find Deejay a new home and Petrescue would be the way to go.

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    From all I have to go on , which is what is written here,then my first feeling is that DJ has a jealousy issue. He also see's himself very much above the baby in the pack order of things.

    As much as I hate to rely on the excuse of "oh it's a dominance issue" , I feel that in this instance that is just what it is.

    Just one part though completely different from your own child and DJ's situation is where you mention DJ growling at other small children 'poking and prodding at him' . He is in actual fact saying " hey,back off,I don't like that,keep it up and just maybe I'll snap next time just to be sure you get the message" . In a nutshell he is warning them he is not happy and would like them to stop it.
    You as his responsible owner should not allow it to happen in the first place.It should be discouraged at all costs.

    Now I have a little more to go on I don't believe the situation is not hopeless so long as you are prepared to set the boundaries and be consistant .
    Giving advice over the net is never an ideal but unless you plan on seeking a personal trainer/behaviouralist then I guess it's better than seeing DJ put down.

    You really need to become the alpha here,he really needs to learn that he actually comes 4th in the pack ( it is you ,your hubby and bub yes?)
    You would be surprised at just how quickly things can improve when thr right training/signals are given.But also don't expect a miracle quick fix.

    Can you tell me a little more of the way your family ( pack) structure works?
    ie ; Feeding times,sleeping arrangments etc etc.....a general day in the life of so to speak
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephandkash View Post
    You are not the person to tell me whether or not I can give my dog away, it is none of your bussiness and if people were interested I definantly wouldnt give him away with leaving out the fact that he doesnt like children. By the way, he has never bitten or snapped at any child although I wouldnt recomend leaving him un-attended with small children that would prod and poke at his face!
    You dont know anything about my dog so you have no right to say that he isnt a good dog,
    He IS well behaved, he DOES listen, he DOES love to play, he HAS been very cute and loving from the day we got him. So who the F are you to tell me that he isnt?
    I have thought long and hard about the next dog im getting and it will be braught up with children, un-like Deejay he had nothing to do with children before my daughter came along. So if your really that much of a dog lover what do you recomend? if i cant give him away...put him down??? i think its cruel and everyone deserves a fresh start! DONT YOU!?

    For the record...mind your own F'ing bussiness
    Charming. Perhaps you shouldn't have children either if this is how you handle criticism.

    Read my post again before you carry on like a loose wheel and start swearing and being abusive. I didn't say he was anything, I merely COPIED AND PASTED the things YOU stated about him and asked if he was so perfect then why are you giving him away. There is no mention anywhere that he is aggressive.

    You had NO intention of desexing him before you gave him away either or you would mention this VERY important tidbit of information when you first posted the details about your 'much loved but no longer wanted' dog.

    I also don't believe you spoke to a trainer and they said he was 'too old' to train. BULLOCKS! What trainer would say that! Age is IRRELEVANT and any trainer would know that. You are only trying to cover your own guilt tracks to make yourself feel better and to garner support on this forum.

    As for it being 'none of my business' - if you want to state on a PUBLIC forum that you want to give your dog away then you must expect that the PUBLIC are entitled to offer their opinion. Some will agree with you, others will disagree. Suck it up sister and accept that this is the way forums work when they are freely available and accessible to the public.

    Regardless of the dog, the temperement or the age, NO YOUNG CHILD SHOULD EVER BE LEFT UNATTENDED WITH ANY DOG. It really aint that hard. That is simply a golden rule as all children will poke and prod dogs and even the sweetest of dogs will become annoyed with this treatment. I have Pugs and yet I would not ever leave a child with them unattended and I can almost categorically state 110% that they would NEVER bite or harm a child.

    I think those offering advice should save their typing fingers becuase it is obvious that this person came here with their mind made up to give the dog away, not to try and find a solution to the poking child and the snappy dog. She is only appeasing you all because she feels a victim now because I have come in boots and all.

    Nattylou - for the record, I don't tar everyone with the same brush but I can spot flimsy excuses a mile away. Remember, I take surrenders in and have for 5 years.... the excuses are sometimes genuine, the owners have some times gone to great lengths to resolve issues. Some times the owners have really suffered with thier decision. I don't usually want to know, I figure "just give me the dog and let me find someone who will love it for life, and not just unitll something better comes along...."
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