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    Hi
    I have an 8 week old border collie x kelpie . I am aware she will need a lot of exercise which is fine as we live near bush and beach and are walkers and runners. However until she is through her vaccinations I can't take her anywhere.
    1. What ideas do you experienced dog owners have for keeping a very bright puppy amused, I have been adding toys slowly. Just wondering if there are some tips. I have had labs in the distant past so she is a new experience.
    Happy to hear advice for a novice.

    Toilet training is fine as long as someone is around to open the door, so all good on that front. Time required.
    Had a hiccup when I introduced the vets recommended biscuits and she got flatulent and runny faeces. Fine when I returned her to the raw food she had been raised on post weaning.

    2. I put a collar on her and it irritated the skin on her neck. Should I leave it off until it heals or get something soft so she doesn't have to go through the process of getting used to it all over again?

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    Well my own personal feeling is to meet as many known dogs as possible and do lots of socialisation. you just have to be aware of where you are going and know the areas you take your dog.

    8-16 weeks are very important n meeting many puppies and dogs and also lots of experiences with different people of many different ages, nationalities and sizes.

    Also lots of different environments and places..this will help your puppy as an adult.

    I work with a lot of puppies and also train dogs as adults.i always ask how people socialsed their puppies and at what age. And I am finding a definite relation by puppies who were kept isolated in their early life from other puppies/dogs. Those dogs often being worried/anxious/fearful/aggressive. And many of the fun dogs we now have coming to Obedience did lots of early socialisation.

    Many well know positive trainers/behaviourists will support and promote this this

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    Enjoy your puppy and have fun
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    Your pup is very cute. And yes, will require lots of mental stimulation and exercise.
    Here are some brain teasers i use on bernie, who would of been murdered by me as a pup, had it not been for the retrieve of a ball neat trick.
    Fetch
    tug of war
    clicker training ( i personally use a verbal marker, but some use clickers, and ball point pens are great clickers if you cant find one in a pet shop for some inflated price)
    Dirt pit made around the area that he chose for his den. Ie. i dint fill in the hole he dug, i put sleepers around it to mark it as his dig pit. I hid bones, biscuits in there for him to dig up and find.
    Empty cola bottles filled with stock, frozen and tossed into the garden for him before i go out
    Marrow bones daily
    Raw hide chews
    puzzle toys work for some, but not my dogs
    another dog to play with.
    doggie play dates: I found a offleash area, and went real early, met the same dogs at 6.30am, 5 of them, and we walked together off leash, brilliant socialising and manners training for your dog
    I took my dog to the prep school at home time, and had it behave for the toddlers who mauled him, this would really tire him out
    Tracking
    "find it" games
    Oh and did i mention Fetch? Perhaps its right that its in here twice, as Bernie thinks he's in haven, when released to chase his prey item and bring it back. This is his "jackpot" reward, so i would start healing at 2 paces, and then throw his toy and release. Then 3 paces etc etc.
    I find if Bernie has to think, he's tired easily.
    I have a problem solving dog now, if i dont find problems for him to solve, he'll find his own, such as how to get the glass out of rayban sunnies, how hard you need to rip, to get the insole out of mums boots etc.

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    All of what the others have said.

    Is there an obedience or agility club near you. That is a good place to take a pup for socialising pre her vaccinations. Most clubs have a vaccination rule so are usually pretty safe places. Check first and ask if what their policy is and would they mind you bringing your pup to socialise.

    Retrieving and tugging need you to be there but are great interactive activities to teach your pup. Toys such as a Holey Roller with a marble in a pill bottle inside kept our pups amused for hours. KOngs filled with frozen stuff also keeps them busy.

    Tying a toy onto a length of bungy cord and the other end to a tree or patio post or chair leg (etc) is really great fun as the toy flies away when they drop it. Stimultates the chase reflex. But don't stand to close when the pup is playing with it.
    Nev Allen
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    Don't over do the exercise... for a puppy five minutes per month of age in one session is enough so for an 8 week old - 10 minutes in one go is enough. ie you might not quite get about 5 houses up the street and back in that time. So no long walks to start with.

    Toys - lots of toys is good, but novelty of toys is everything so maybe have two or three each day and change them over for some other toys the next day, and you can rotate back through the same toys - just put some away for a few days and then get them out again, and put the others away.

    I like toys that involve puppy working to get their food. And chew toys.

    There's a relatively new kong toy called a bob a lot, which has to be pushed over to get the kibble out, I reckon that would be good.

    Play dates with dogs you know are friendly and vaccinated are good. Border collies are often dog snobs - they only like people or other BCs and they have extremely long memories so one bad experience with a nasty dog - can be very hard to undo. So make sure all greetings are supervised and gentle.

    And definitely find out where the agility club is near you and see if they have a puppy class. They will have loads of BC experts...

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    Thanks for the great advice. we start puppy classes next week, small group.
    Have a toy box with an increasing range of things. She prefers the ones she 'finds' egg carton, empty pot, water bottle.
    She can sit and drop now ( for a reward not what you would call solid learning..lol)
    Had a snag with the first collar but the new one is fine so am starting gentle lead training at home. I realised we have to look after a relative in 3 weeks and this will entail a 4 hour car journey. So we are having short journeys to try and get her used to it.
    I have put her in the rear of our subaru station waggon as that is where she will be when we get to the beach when she is old enough.
    Is there anything i need to be aware of for car travel apart from the obvious breaks and drinks? Looked at a harness but not sure, I like the idea of her being harnessed when we travel.. what is the outlook from you guys on dogs in cars?
    I have a clicker and trying to wrap my head around the principles as she is very quick and if I do things wrong she will be hard to retrain!

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    Lots of puppies get very car sick. Mine would throw up last night's dinner if we did a longish trip (eg 30 minutes or more) in the morning. Kibble was the worst. Soft food would stay down better.

    It helps if they can't see out, ie they're in a covered box or crate or low down in the car so they cant' see. My dog worked that out for herself, she'd lie down with her head flat against the seat and keep her eyes firmly shut. I also used to carry a lot of newspaper in the car, and if she sat up and started dribbling - I'd shove the newspaper on the seat where it would catch the drool and then the vomit. You have to be quick. You don't get much time between when the dog sits up and dribbles to when the vomit happens.

    I find it easier to say "yes" and join that with a treat than use a clicker because I'm just not co-ordinated enough to hold lead, click and deliver treat with only two hands.

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    You can give the pup a vitamen B tablet or a ginger tablet half hour before you travel. Thats always worked for us and we have done heaps of long distance stuff without to much fuss.
    Nev Allen
    Border River Pet Resort

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    In regard to the in car harness, we have never tied our dogs in. We have always had a wagon and put up a dividing screen between us and the dogs. There are lots of quick and easy to install dividers you can buy these days.
    Nev Allen
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