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    Default 9 months of age, and pushing her luck. Suddenly deaf rottie syndrome

    ah ha, here we go..... teenage dog suddenly.
    Pohm is a 9 month old rottie x dogue de bordeaux. Very people dog. Very obedient till 2 weeks ago.
    Firstly, we noticed her taking a shot at the title with our GSD (failing miserably of course, but was insessant in her attempts to best him/get his food etc.
    then last week, she started to 'guard' so will now bark at people going past. But she is in an enclosure so cant get to the back fence.
    this week, she's taken to not coming when called, but when she's good n ready.

    So i have been thinking. As most dogs go through this stage, i have previously handled this with increasing obedience work. Drilling almost. Lots and lots of repetitious/reward training.

    We have recently moved house, this may be contributing to behaviour change, it might not be development of teen?
    She is left on her own during day for 6 hrs with Bernie the GSD. They rumpus play together a lot. Have plenty to occupy themselves with on the property. Loads of space. Then she's walked/trained in morning, and swims in evening. so not under exercised in any way.

    How have others handled this particular phase of puppy development? when your beautifully obedient dog starts going apparently deaf when you call it grrrr

    bernie would also like a bit of peace too i reckon. He's taken to putting her in her place when she's going on and on at him. Which she then cries and whines and sucks up to him, but the moment he allows her to lick his face, she then wants to rough and tumble again.

    We leant her to my son, who had some bad news last weekend. So i dropped her off fri to sun. she is a very cuddly dog, and gives a lot of love n cuddles. When i popped around on sunday, i noticed she was on the sofa! sleeping on the furntiure, had slept in his bed. And has been jumping up since her return. that is now sorted. She's still jumping, but does not make contact. Perhaps, on reflection, allowing her to live somewhere lenient for 3 days was not the way to go right now. But needs must. she did a excellent job of getting my son off his sulking butt, and walking her.

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    I have upped the one on one training with mine, lots of Obedience and also I go to Kennel Clubs and take them in our Obedience classes......Exercise is good and needed, but they also need training during this period.

    I smiled when I saw what happened to you, because Katy went dumb at about 7 months..we just kept on with training. Suddenly she was back LOL.

    I know that Katy also lost her puppy license at that time and the older dogs were suddenly cranky with her. It happens to all of them, just at different levels.

    What you have to be careful of is that with some dogs, especially same sex, it can escalate to a good fight. Not all, but it can be scary.......GIve your GSD some peace too. Those young ones can be irritating to the older ones.

    Also if you have someone to train with do lots of side by side training, where you work opposite one another, side by side and also side by side sit/drop/stand stays...it just helps with some control. So your young one knows that there has to be control.

    I also believe that walking exercise off property is important.....We live on a large rural acreage, but i still walk my dogs off property (on lead) to make it more interesting.....
    Pets are forever

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    We got stuck in grade four for about 2 months and grade 5 for three months after Frosty turned 8 months. Attention span of a gnat. We did some Triangle of Temptation ie built up to very long sit stays or down stays before she got permission to eat her dinner... and some drills where she had to recall past her dinner... ie do drills that require the dog to show some self control...for really huge rewards - like dinner.

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    I have been drilling her, using longer and longer self control on her part, with dinner as her reward. Long down/stay or sit stay. I use triangle of temptation a LOT with my dogs as its simple and teaches lots in one exercise.

    Im keen to walk my dogs in various places. town/rural/house visits to others. My GSD gets bored otherwise. So will be keeping it varied for deaf pohm, no worries.

    If in the sun, she has a terrible affliction, she falls prostrate to the ground, and alters her level of conciousness, ie. asleep. This is when its hard to convince her that she really must come now, not when she's good and ready.

    Generally, im calling her to do something with the Bernie and me. And she's happy to come along, just difficult to get her arse off the floor in the first place these days.

    I think from the amount of humping going on, she has lost her puppy licence. No sign of aggro though. Honestly, she's just not that energetic a dog.

    Should i leave her there led down, and carry on without her (generally a walk down to the lake for Bernie's swiim) or make her get up and come?

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    Should you leave her there or not.

    Depends what you want.

    If your reward is good enough to the dog - they will come no matter how much asleep they are.

    My dog can be completely conked out on the sofa but still know the difference between me getting milk out the fridge for my coffee (zero interest to her - cos I never give her any milk, well hardly ever), and pulling the lid off a yogurt tub to make breakfast or put on curry. The yogurt tub - has her RIGHT THERE on the mat (right spot), RIGHT NOW.

    So if you want sleepy lazy dog to come - find a better reward for her. If it really doesn't matter to you, don't call her. Or use a word you don't care if it's broken or a word that just lets your dog know where you are, not a recall word or their name. I use "pup pup" and "puss puss" and "this way" - for I've changed direction now and will shortly disappear if you don't turn around/get up/move along. I even use fun sounds like "brrrrr" or "yodel" for I'm going this way, where are you going?

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    we have found a new type of ball. Its amphetamines for Pohm. She's right there, right now. Can go from coma to 'lets go!' in seconds. You were right hyacinth!
    The ball is a high bounce ball. Both dogs prize this new type of ball over any other toy. Maybe coz its new. I use orbi balls which are fine, but not as exciting as one of these cheapish high bounce balls for some reason?

    And this is also useful for working on bernie's heeling, that needs polishing a bit lately. As no ball, she's just led there like a door stop, so i leave her there and can take bernie out alone.

    Im always amazed with these two, the difference in working dog and pet dog. Bernie has oodles and oodles more drive/spark/energy.
    And pohm being a mastiff in her bordeaux genetic side, makes her a couch potatoe of a dog, if let.

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    My dog loves new toys, and some other dog's toy. Ie if there are two new tennis balls, she will prefer the tennis ball that belongs to the other dog.

    Having said that - any ball I pick up - automatically belongs to her as far as she's concerned. So I don't pick up balls for other dogs any more. Which can make me look a bit unhelpful until I explain.

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    Well we have just taken Pohm for her first bush camping. And she was wonderfully behaved obedience wise.

    She is a bitch, and does love a little perfume rubbed over her neck, perferring Channel No: dead coprse or Eau de fox scat.

    Only this camping trip, she outdid herself supremely.
    Found where my adult son had used the woods for his call of nature and rolled in it. It ended the camping trip suddenly. And earned her a ride in the ute trailer, alone all the way back home till my son could bath her!

    I hate owning dogs sometimes!

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    I hope it's your son a lesson to bury it...

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