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    Question New puppy

    Hi all,

    I'm currently trying to raise my first puppy. I haven't encountered any major problems so far, but I'd like to make sure that I'm doing things right.

    I have my puppy(Dexter) set up in the bathroom with a crate that I've placed his bedding and toy in, I've managed to get him to go into it readily and place him in there for his daytime naps(though he goes a little nuts if I close the door and he's awake, but mostly any time I leave him alone). Just outside the entrance to his crate I have his food/water bowl and opposite his crate I have a litter tray(I'm training him to use that instead of going outside). He did have free run of the bathroom with just a bed(no crate) but I found he would just pee everywhere but the litter tray, hence me getting the crate. I'm now attempting to crate train him. Last night was the first night he spent in the crate and he was MUCH better than the 2 previous nights without the crate. The first two nights were pretty full on howling and carrying on almost non-stop all night in the bathroom. So I'm trying him in the crate in the bedroom. He still whined, but not as loud and desperate as in the bathroom, but still pretty frequently. I read that when you have young pups in a crate at night you need to take them to their toilet area every time they whine just in case they need to go. I took him about 7 times last night and he only peed once. My only concern is that I'll be teaching him that he gets taken out every time he whines. He was pretty sleepy most of the night, except he started to wake up around his 4:30 toilet trip and got a bit loud after that 'cause he wasn't so sleepy when I placed him back in the crate.

    Also regarding the litter tray, at first he was only pooping in it, and refused to stay in there more than a split second so I could never get him to stay in there long enough for him to need to do a pee. I thought maybe he didn't like the feel of the litter I put in there, so I've changed it to paper towel, and he's better with that. I also tried placing him in the litter tray and gave him treats to encourage him to stay in there, which also helped, but he still gets out pretty soon after I place him in there. Whenever I put him in the litter tray after a nap it's almost impossible to stop him lying down or sitting and he just wants to crawl out and flop on my leg. I've managed to get him to pee in there 3 times so far, but he still does 90% of his business elsewhere. Sometimes it almost seems like he waits until I let him out of the litter tray and then pees. When he pees somewhere else in the house, I get some paper towel, soak it up and carry him to his litter tray and let him sniff it and reward him.Any tips to help with this?

    I was also wondering what the best way is to get them used to periods of time alone. Is there a better way than just leaving them and waiting until they stop howling before returning to them? If I leave him in the bathroom and just walk to the kitchen to get a drink or something, he's howling his little heart out, and I have to wait for a good while before I can go back to him. Is it best to just keep leaving him for short periods and returning when he's quiet? or is it better to reward him for being quiet before he even starts whining? I'll have to leave him for a few hours tomorrow while I'm at work, and I did an experiment today to see how long it takes for him to quiet down, and he only carried on like crazy for 15mins, then whined quietly for 5-10mins and was pretty quiet after that so I think he should be ok tomorrow if I give him a good play and run around before I go and leave him with a kong toy.

    I've only had him for 3 days, so I'm not expecting fantastic results just yet. I just want to make sure I'm going about things the right way and not causing problems that will be hard to fix later. I guess my biggest concern is getting him to go in the litter tray instead of waiting until after he's spent 10mins in there and going on the floor. And also taking him out of the crate to go to the toilet every time he whines when I know he can't need to go that frequently.

    And just because everyone loves puppies, here's a pic of Dexter
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    Howdy Blackthorn, welcome to the forum, and welcome to Dexter! He certainly is cute!! I am not a dog expert but I went through the same thing when we brought Oskar home. Sound like you are on track. Pups are very smart and manipulative creatures lol, and if you give into their every whim, they will learn to get their own way (much like children lol) I reckon you are doing well with wees and poos. I found with all of my dogs in the past, it is best to take them outside after any naps, after a play, after dinner and drink, before bed. If he suddenly starts sniffing the ground in circles, that could be a sign that he wants to go outside for wees. Basically after he has done anything, it is tedious, but thats part of puppy hood lol. But like you said, you have only had him 3 days, so just relax and enjoy this time with Dexter!! He is sooo cute!

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    Welcome. Dexter's gorgeous!

    I reckon training a pup to go in a litter tray is quite a bit harder than training them to go outside...

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    Dexter is gorgeous.

    I paper train my pups at the same time as I train to go outside. You can spread newspapers over a bigger area and then shrink it as they get better.

    I imagine a litter tray cant be very big, and even though hes small, he owuld probably like to be able to sniff round a bit before he does his business and choose the spot he wants to go. With a litter tray, he doesnt really have a choice

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    Have you thought about the fake grass patches you can get? They are normally 1m x 1m and are good for indoor dogs. City farmers has them!

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

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    Thanks everyone! I was starting to think that perhaps the litter tray is too small, he fits, but he can't walk around too much. I can always try paper training him and then slowly replace the paper with the litter tray, I've read an article on the this transition and it sounds like it might be the better way to go about it.

    Ignoring him is so hard when he gets desperate! He sounds really distraught, but I know it's counter productive to acknowledge the bad behaviour.

    Hoping things progress positively over the next few weeks!

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    Well I've tried replacing the litter box with a larger area of paper and that seems to be working much better. The last few nights he's done his thing on the paper, and even when he was left alone yesterday while I was at work, my partner said he couldn't see any pees off the paper when he got home. Now I just have to figure out how to get him to go there when he's elsewhere in the house.

    He's getting much better at night now too. I think I might've actually gotten some sleep last night!

    Oh I have a question too. He hasn't had his 12 week vaccination yet, and I know you're not supposed to socialise them with other dogs at this stage, but can you take them outside to public areas? or is that just as bad as having him around other dogs? I just have a small park behind my house and I was wondering if I could take him for a run around on the grass there?

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    It's best not to take him into public area's. I am pretty sure it is fine to socialise with other dogs as long as they are fully vaccinated and healthy. Other members say this is the most important time for puppy socialisation.

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    As Jadie says, you can socialise with majority of dogs, maybe just ask the owner of any dogs, if they are up to date before letting Dexter have a sniff. We did this when Oskar was a young pup and people were more than happy to admit. We still took him for walks just not around dog parks or anything where there was a huge population of dogs until he had all his vaccs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackthorn View Post
    Well I've tried replacing the litter box with a larger area of paper and that seems to be working much better. The last few nights he's done his thing on the paper, and even when he was left alone yesterday while I was at work, my partner said he couldn't see any pees off the paper when he got home. Now I just have to figure out how to get him to go there when he's elsewhere in the house.

    He's getting much better at night now too. I think I might've actually gotten some sleep last night!

    Oh I have a question too. He hasn't had his 12 week vaccination yet, and I know you're not supposed to socialise them with other dogs at this stage, but can you take them outside to public areas? or is that just as bad as having him around other dogs? I just have a small park behind my house and I was wondering if I could take him for a run around on the grass there?
    I suggest taking new puppies out as early as possible for socialisation. You just have to be smart about it.
    Take him to friends' houses with vaccinated friendly dogs to play with. Take him around to places, near railway lines, construction sites, school ovals at lunchtime, only keep him off the ground. He's small now, so you can carry him around. I do understand that for larger breeds this can be near-impossible :P

    I have also heard that you can walk your pup up and down your street if you want. You can spray the footpath with a bleach/water ratio of 1:3 and this kills Parvo (about the only thing that does) and avoid walking on the grass. I haven't tried it personally, though... If you can be bother spraying your footpath with bleach each time you walk your dog...

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