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    Awwwwwwwww, I remember that cute little face....Not so little now, I bet
    Pets are forever

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    Hi again,

    I have yet more questions! My pup is now just over 10 weeks, the person I bought him off said that only one of his nuts has dropped, is it best to wait until the other one drops before having him desexed? and also what's the best age to have them desexed?

    Also he has started to mount various things. He initially only mounted a toy cow that smelt like the cat (my thoughts were he was trying to dominate the cat maybe?) and then he repeatedly mounted my mother's arm when he met her, though he was very excited at the time and also when he met my friend, and then today I saw him trying to mount the cat itself. Any thoughts on the reason for this?

    I am also wondering.. If my cat was here first and is older/bigger than the dog, should I be supporting the cat's role as dominant animal, or should I be supporting the dog as dominant? Currently the cat gets fed breakfast before the dog, but the dog gets dinner before the cat. I think initially the cat was quite jealous of the puppy because we had to pay so much attention to it. The cat was showing very dominating behaviour towards the puppy when he first arrived. He never swiped at him, but he stood very tall and kind of leaned over the top of him with his hackles up and a fluffy tail and sometimes hissed at him, but he was also curious and would always be there watching. He's so much better now! I've made sure to give him lots of attention and acknowledge him when the puppy's around and I think that helped. They are playing together now, though sometimes the cat spooks the puppy by surprising him from around a corner and the puppy yelps though the cat doesn't touch him. The cat tolerates the puppy jumping at him and nipping at his fur trying to play, and he just walks off or jumps up somewhere high if he's had enough. The cat sometimes hunts the puppy, he's playing but sometimes he gets a little too 'in to it' so I make sure the puppy's out of the way when the cat's in one of his psychotic hunting moods. So there's some of the history of how they've been getting along, what do you think with regards to pet heirachy? I'm assuming here that the dog will see the cat as part of its pack, is this right?

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    The humping is a dominating thing that nearly all pups will do.
    6 months minmum for desexing in my books but my last guy was done by the RSPCA at only 6 weeks old and he was fine. I'd still wait at least 6 months but i'm waiting till 18 months for my giant breed. Mojo is 7 months old now and his nuts just dropped like a fortnight ago, well became visible anyway. I wouldnt worry about it at all at this early stage. My mate only has one nut maybe your dog only has one ? Dunno about cats sorry, i dont do cats at all.


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    I don't give much thought about who gets fed first and stuff. I feed the cat first only because she won't stop bloddy meowing until I do and if I feed the dog first, the cat will just eat out of her bowl anyway (which she still does after she finishes her own food!) I did a bit of work with my dog - who was 8 months when I got her - on trying to stop her from chasing the cats (we occasionally have other fosters) but now our current cat actually invites her to play chasies. And if the cat goes psycho, I just let the dog deal with it. If she gets really fed up with her tail or feet being attacked, she will put her mouth around the cat's head. The cat gets the message. But most cats would never agree with any dog being the boss of them in their house. They always see themselves as king of the castle. I don't think that is 'dominant' behaviour. Cats are solitary animals so they don't follow pack rules. I think it's pure opportunism.

    Not much to say about the mounting, but it's definitely perfectly normal behaviour.

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    I have a dog and 3 cats. My cat's will always be given more attention than the dog simply because they were there first, but that's just my opinion.

    My eldest cat lets everybody know he's the boss anyway, he's very dominant over all the others (both the cats and the dog) and if he decides he wants attention from me & the dog is simply in the way he will walk up to her and she knows to move before she gets a claw to the face, I let it be, that's just the way it runs in my house, the cat's rule the roost. Even growing up when we had dogs we always had cat's and the cat was usually the boss whether we intended it to be or not. They will usually sort each other out if need be without any major harm.

    Cat's always get fed in my house first too for the same reason as beloz said - the cat's won't shut up as soon as the bowls come out and if i feed the dog first all three will take it upon themselves to feed from her bowl so i have to feed them first so the dog can eat in peace.

    Not sure about the humping, but i'd say if it were my cats they would rip the dog a new one. Lol - just let them sort it out for themselves

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    I actually have never heard of a household with cats and dogs where the cats are not the boss. And I don't think that's a bad thing personally.

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    Thanks guys

    I am pretty confident the cat will remain top dog regardless of what I do, it's more that I wasn't sure if I needed to feed/greet them in order for the puppy's benefit to help him understand his place incase he gets confused and thinks he's supposed to be top dog and thus tries to dominate the cat. The cat's being very tolerant of the puppy though, he still hasn't swiped at him. My cat seems to be pretty good with other animals, even my ducks have made friends with him and will go and sit with him outside. It seems if I show him that an animal is welcomed eg: a pet, and he sees me treating it favourably, he realises that he's not supposed to hurt it and inevitably accepts it.

    I'll just keep an eye on the humping behaviour and make sure it doesn't escalate into something more. I would hope the cat will put him in his place if he goes too far with the brotherly love.

    I don't have any issues with feeding them at the moment, they may not even know when the other gets fed since I feed them in different rooms and the cat's food is now up off the ground so the puppy won't finish it off. The cat has his feeding routine in place already anyway and he knows when he gets fed. The puppy has a different schedule, mostly to save me having to get up so often at night to take him to the toilet, at least the cat can take himself to the toilet. The cat tries to help out by burying the puppy's accidents too

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    Your pup humped your Mum out of excitement. People make the mistake of believing humping is about being dominant. I suggest you chuck the word dominant (along with pack) out the window because dogs, like humans, do not have a linear hierarchy and live in family groups.

    Humping can be about:-
    Sex/Self Gratification
    Over arousal
    Or calming over aroused dogs down (older, calm dogs will often hump over excited dogs to calm them down)

    In your puppys case it is a natural male dog thing and it is the first option (gross but true).

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