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    Exclamation Alaskan Malamute puppy itchy skin - not fleas - no visible redness or irritation

    Hi, hoping someone can give me some advice:
    My 16 week old Malamute puppy has been suffering itchy skin - mostly notice her scratching at night (whether because she is settled and notices the itch maybe?) - she just bites at her feet and her rump, and scratches her head with her back paw - doesn't scratch to the extent where she causes damage to her skin and there is no visible redness or signs of irritation.

    I have consulted two vets. The first said that even though there were no visible fleas or flea debris on her, we should treat her with Comfortis as its meant to be the best, and that one treatment should get rid of any fleas that might be lurking. They also said if that didnt clear it up then she must be exposed to one of the irritant plants on a chart they showed me. The only plants I have is a hedge of Mock Orange trees (sort of like lily pily trees) & I can't find any information about them causing skin irritation to dogs. I also have some potted red Cordylines but these are up too high for her to gain access to them. So back to the drawing board, I consulted vet number two.

    Vet number two, who is a very trusted vet who has always advised us well in the past, looked at her belly and advised she thought it was a case of mildly dry skin causing her to itch. We advised we were bathing her in Oatmeal shampoo which vet said was fine, but that we should condition her also, and start including fish oil with her meals. So we bathed her, conditioned her, used a moisturising spray which we brush through her coat after her fortnightly bath, and give her fish oil with her dinner each night. Weeks later and she's still scratching at night. Mind you, it doesn't seem to be as bad or take her anywhere near as long to settle and stop scratching as it used to, but obviously there is still something causing her to itch a bit.

    My other concern is I have just read an article online where a guy said that fish oil almost killed his dog, because it diminishes vitamin E in the system, and that most human fish oil does not have sufficient Vitamin E included to offset this. I have since found a product online called Paws & Claws fish oil, specifically for animals, which has the recommended amount of Vitamin E required...does anyone use this or have any recommendations?

    Also I came across another product on vetproductsdirect called Essential 6 - a spot-on treatment for skin health & hydration. I was going to give it a go but thought I would ask if anyone has used it?

    If anyone has had similar itching problems with their doggie and has any ideas, please let me know
    Thanks

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    If the 'Mock orange' you refer to is the 'Murraya' plant then they are not toxic to dogs (well not the lists i've seen) but they do have a little berry which humans can eat (yuk!!). She could have a reaction to the flowers or even the berries maybe ??? Probably not though.
    Mojo started scratching at about 12 weeks old and while it looked ok except for 1 or 2 tiny scabs i took him to the vet anyway and was told to use Malaseb shampoo which worked a treat.
    While i couldnt see anything really irritating him i assumed his underbelly around his 'bits' were a little bald because of his young age but the vet said he should have been a fair bit hairier than what he was. It turned out it was some sort of mild skin infection ,cant remember the name sorry. And while this vet of mine has since proved to be pretty hopless he did knock this problem on the head quickly.
    It could be a diet issue aswell but i'm not really the person to answer this for you. Some other members are really good on that topic and i'm sure they'll give you some good info about it.
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    Thanks, unfortunately the vet said not to use malaseb on her as she is only a puppy but I have used it on other dogs in the past for skin problems and agree it is good stuff. Was my first thought to use that too though so thanks
    As for diet, we feed her Eukanuba large breed puppy biscuits & My Dog puppy wet food, as well as raw chicken wings and necks. Hope that helps anyone who has any info on diet related causes?

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    I'm using malaseb on 4 weeks old pups now vet told me to start bathing them daily in it on Friday
    I don't know why your vet said it can't be used on pups
    Mine are very young and they are fine with it...
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    What does she sleep on at night? My mal was very itchy when she was a pup and I discovered she was getting off her bed and sleeping on my one of my jackets.

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    Feeding your dog Fish won't kill it. Instead of using fish oil, feed tuna or sardines etc. I feed my dogs a meal of fish once a week to keep their coat looking nice and healthy.

    Washing your dog every 2 weeks is WAY to often. Washing leeches the moisture out of your dogs skin and fur and will cause dryness. This could be one part of your problem. I would be dropping back to washing once every month.

    Did you give your dog the Comfortis? If not, do.

    What do you feed your dog? I am hazarding a guess at a processed wet food or a dry food such as Eukanuba or Science Diet?
    If so you need to change the pups diet as most dogs don't deal well with processed foods, and dry foods which contain lots of grains, corns, preservatives and colours.
    Also some dogs have beef intolerance, so cut out any beef in your dogs diet.

    Personally I would change to a holistic dry food such as Black Hawk, Canidae, Artemis etc that have little to no grains, corns, preservatives or colours in them. And a mix of chicken mince, chicken frames, chicken/turkey necks, lamb off cuts, tuna/sardines, raw meaty bones and some veggies.

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    Thanks so much, you are right, we had been feeding Eukanuba along with My Dog wet puppy food. I have now ordered some Artemis online. We have been bathing her more often lately because its been pouring rain & she's getting filthy. At the moment she sleeps on her bed on our bedroom floor, but has been known to get off the bed and sleep on the bare timber floor.

    Yep have given her Comfortis.

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    not sure if its true but i have read somewhere (Probably wiki) bathing them too much can give them dry irritable skin as it saps the natural oils of the coat & skin that protect the dogs skin.

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    it cound be a allege to some thing is there sand near your house it can be sand fleas they live in the sand and thay drive dogs nuts
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    Quote Originally Posted by bkench View Post
    not sure if its true but i have read somewhere (Probably wiki) bathing them too much can give them dry irritable skin as it saps the natural oils of the coat & skin that protect the dogs skin.
    Yes, that is true. For some dogs, their skin become flaky after some time. You would not notice that until your dog's skin becomes very dry.

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