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    Sorry - but obviously Masons parent are "liberal" enough to allow him on the internet without supervision so I very much doubt the "strictness" of their "regime"

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    Sorry Billy ! We have all been patient over and over, supporting him,giving him advice, did he take it? no! so we did it again and again. I understand where you're coming from Billy...but i now believe that enough is enough. Strict parenting? Yeah, i know what that's like...but never used it as an excuse in life.
    16 is not 5. Like I said before when I got my first dog I was younger then Mason. Had no money,I read every book in the library so i knew how to care and train my new pup. Mason has the world-wide web under his nose and it's all too hard to educate himself on the topic.
    It's all been about helping the dog. First everyone encouraged him to train an deducate himself, now we think that the best thing for the pup is to find a new, loving home, This pup deserves better. Don't forget Billy...this pup was 5 weeks? when they got him, lives outside, has been hit, yelled at, screamed at in his face and tied up. What's next?

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    It does get frustrating..'sigh'

    I wish I could throw $400 x 5 to someone to wave their magic wand and tadahhh, I have 4 'perfect' kids and 1 'perfect' BIG pup WOW, my life would just sooo easy!!!!

    Mason, I am trying to stand along side of you with my pup who has very similar breeds as yours and she does the same things yours does. We have great days, then we have days where she's back to the start again

    Candy is a greyhound x bull terrior x pointer. She's 8 months now and she's still a great big PUPPY!
    She still jumps on my kids (the 2 youngest get knocked over then their faces licked), she still has a "thing" for my 8 yr old daughter....jumps on her and play bites..mainly her clothes....yet the next thing, they are rolling about on the ground tackling and PLAYING!! Candy will take food from my kids the first chance she gets and if they drop their food...LOL, they can kiss it goodbye, it's already in her mouth.
    When we 1st got her...ALL she did was play bite bite bite bite bite and jump jump jump oh, and licking..OMG.
    Come dinner and breakky times, she'd gulp that food down like it was her last feed. Then there was her stone eating....and eating of EVERYTHING else...mainly the kids toys she'd steal lol.

    I went out for the morning 2 days ago and came home to a HUGE mess in the garage...she'd pulled down a $300 futon mattress and chewed it to bits

    NOW, Candy is not my 1st dog, before her I had an incredibly smart, well trained dog who got all her titles in obedience...WHY is Candy not like this....easy....they are all different..I train in the same sort of way, but she is simply different and also matures a lot slower than my previous dog.

    So...she's 8 months now...she sits at her dinner time and she's not allowed to eat untill I say..."ok"...going from a dog who thought they would starve...to dog with manners AND she eats it nice and slowly now.....even leaving some to share with our other little dog

    Her play biting is pretty much gone and replaced with playing ball or tug-o-war (she LOVES this). And her jumping up is getting much better as ALL who get jumped on are told they are NOT to allow her to do this..they are to turn thier back and say NO, sit, then she gets a pat. Come time the kids eat...she is told NO...she IS learning and no more of the kids food is being snatched from their hands...she has learned...she does not eat what we eat...never!

    I STRONLY suggest you watch some obedience (as another poster suggested) on the web and learn from that. You need to do it over and over with your dog. Also as previously suggested...put your dog on a leash and teach him to heel...this is the 1st thing you really should be doing so your dog knows you are his master...and not another member of the puppy pack!
    Yelling and hitting, getting cranky isn't the way to train. You wouldn't like your pre-school teacher to teach you this way as a small child. If you get frustrated...then give it a rest...10 minutes training twice a day is good for both you and your pup.

    SORRY this is long, you are not the only one going through puppy problems.....do you read through the forum about other ppl problems and suggestions also?

    Can you read a song.....then expect to know the words immediatley?
    NO, ofcourse you can't...and your dog cannot learn like that either...practice practice practice...it's IMPORTANT

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    So True Ozeymum!

    Fair enough. Let's see how far, insults, surmising about peoples lives and abuse gets....Lets see how this will help this puppy and Mason.

    At least the communication lines were open! Now the door is slammed shut!!

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    Do you get a nose bleed so high up there in your ivory tower Billy? (before you accuse me of having a "personal go" read your own post)

    Mason is a whinging brat who wanted the internet to solve his problems. Like all whinging brats he cracked the sads when things didn't go his way, spat the dummy and left. In all likelihood, like all suicide posters, he will return and try to pretend nothing has happened.

    16 is not 6...16 is old enough to drive in some countries, it is old enough to leave school, it is certainly old enough to start showing some responsibility.

    Coming on an internet forum is not showing responsibility. Hell most of us have shown what a lack of responsibility it can be, at one time or another. I would question how much truth there is to Masons situation quite frankly.

    I offered to the take the pup right at the start of all this. I knew it would come down to an animal being abused - if what Mason says holds any truth. You have offered to help with rehoming. Several of us have given advice on GOOD trainers that were local, and warned against shot in the arm treatments like having someone come over to "fix" the dog. Why waste your breath? Lots more dogs around who need assistance and can be helped. You can't save them all and beating your head against a brick wall because of some "kid" does nothing to improve anyones situation.

    My bet is that "Mason" will want to get rid of the dog for $400 or so to get some of his trainer money back *cough*. Perhaps I am cynical. Actually, there is no perhaps about it.

    The bigger a forum grows the more likely you will have someone who joins to troll and cause disharmony.

    I wonder if this pup exists - and I am the one who posted a photo of it the first time Mason joined.

    Frankly, this sounds like an RSPCA situation now - dog being hit, yelled at, tied up...wonder how long before they take away the food and water unless it behaves?!

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    Ivory tower! Nose Bleeds!

    Water off a ducks back Occy. A fully expected response.

    I take people at face value. Always have, always will. I am not going to surmise about people i do or dont know, esspecially over the internet.

    Besides i simply do not have the time!!

    What right do you think you have to insult someone? What right do you have to call them a whinging brat?? You know there are laws against what you are subjecting a 16 year old to

    I dont care about other countries or other stories, they are simply not relevant here and now.

    I have said i understand the frustration, i work with a lot worse and i dont intimidate and abuse people. WHY?? because the dog, it's welfare and safety is the priority. And if you rip owners apart they will walk away with no help AT ALL. It does not take a genious to figure out what the result of that can be. I wont risk the welfare of a dog over ripping an owner apart as you prefer to do.

    The dog is what concerns me every single time. Perhaps i am just more familiar with it all.

    Nic

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    I will add. That i sit face to face with much worse dog owners who privately surrender a dog to me.

    The dog arrives filthy most often, matted, riddled with fleas, worms you name it.

    No vet work in it's entire life, never slept on a bed let alone inside.

    Underweight/emaciated, the usuall. I speak with them re all of this though my over ridding concern is getting that dog into my care.

    When expensive flights and vet work are involved i sugest they may like to donate toward that. Even a bag of food....anything to help.

    Never! ever!! has this been offered. I dont ask anymore.

    If i ripped them apart on initial conversation or the meeting I have no doubt in my mind that they would find other ways to get rid of the dog.

    I can't and wont live with that personally.

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    I really do understand where you're coming from Billy...I've seen it too...and too many times it's been a situation similar to this one where the owners reallize that their cute little pup is a little monster sometimes. They lose interest, think it's all too hard and the pup lives a miserable life in the backyard. This is where this pup has been heading from the start.
    Mason did not get ripped apart initially. It's taken a while to get to this.

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    I for one am sick and tired of the ridiculous statement of "oh well Children are.....in another country, why are you saving dogs?

    I ask;

    Why are you eating three meals a day? There are children dying in Africa.

    Why are you driving a car? There are children dying in Africa

    Why are you renovating your house? There are children dying in Africa

    Why do you sleep in a warm bed? There are children dying in Africa

    Why do you do anything? there are children dying in Africa

    Children and Adults are dying, and it is such a disgrace on a worldwide level.

    That does NOT however discount every single other thing in our OWN lives.

    Nic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdalena View Post
    I really do understand where you're coming from Billy...I've seen it too...and too many times it's been a situation similar to this one where the owners reallize that their cute little pup is a little monster sometimes. They lose interest, think it's all too hard and the pup lives a miserable life in the backyard. This is where this pup has been heading from the start.
    Mason did not get ripped apart initially. It's taken a while to get to this.
    Hi Maggy

    Yes I understand the frustration, though the wellbeing and welfare of the pup is foremost in my mind. Who knows? with the right support this family may get things sorted and be great dog owners. I have seen stranger things.

    As Ozeymum has said you dont get a song in one day...how do you all expect a family who have no experience or skills with dogs to get all that is being said here in one day??

    I for one certainly had no idea re the endless issues of pet ownership at Masons age. I grew up with a family of passionate animal lovers and adored them on every level. (though we were quite odd compared to others!)

    Things were different then. Things are far worse now due to a massive oversupply of dogs and the profit associated.

    It is not easy out there and there is no education or support.

    If we could all search the internet for free training advice there would be no dog trainers!! There are some awsome and sought after dog trainers available and they work so hard for dogs and their owners day in day out. They also work outstandingly.

    Nic

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