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    Yea - too often. Idiot owner doesn't bother to train or socialise the dog - dog bites someone - dead dog.

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    Hi Mason

    I agree with what has been said here. I don't want to leave you feeling smashed as a dog owner at all. I understand you are the one person in your family who is essentialy working for this pup and i appreciate that, as others do.

    You get to a point in this game where you throw your hands in the air re the owners point of view and just feel great concern for the dog.

    So with great respect i offer the following, take it or leave it;

    Your puppy was taken from his Mother long before he should have been.

    He has missed out on vital and essential socialisation and disipline as a pack animal from his mother and sibblings as a result of that.

    I understand the issues but your family is not addressing them passionately, consistantly and with conviction. Which is what this pup needs and very much deserves.

    This puppy is not a disposable commodity. When your family willingly took him on, you commited to a life time responsibility...warts and all!!

    Training, vet bills, ongoing health care, socialisation, stimulation...you name it.

    He WILL learn! Though you all need to make a solid and devoted commitment.

    One training session does not cut it at all.

    I see dogs killed in pounds and shelters on a consistant basis. Really great dogs!! they also kill bubs like yours and even as young as 4 weeks. They die every single day. Over 600,000 of them a year.

    I am not even going to get into the attacking owner thing.

    If your dog is well trained, socialised, stimulated and under good supervision at all times i would be very suprised to hear any bad stories.

    A hard post from me Mason.

    If you need help in rehoming this dog please pm me. I am not promising anything at all, but i will certainly do my best.

    He deserves a chance, and the BYB that breed him needs his backside kicked big time.

    Nic

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    Nathan Winograd.

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    Ok thanks guys, dad is on the edge of getting rid of it, but luckily we are stopping him! Ill let you know how it goes, maybe in a few more weeks of this training as the guy said, well see how he goes.

    He is very aggressive and if you yell at him, he will yell at you and bite you!

    Lets hope this stuff goes before he is big!

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    Well said Billy!
    Sad but true !!!
    Mason! Your pup NEEDS to be trained and socialized. i don't think your commited...i don't think you/your family are willing to put the work,time, love and effort. You're looking for the 'quick fix', trust me! (and every dog lover here), you won't find it. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but your pup deserves all of the above and therefore you should consider re-homing him with someone who would love to do the above for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mason.e View Post
    Ok thanks guys, dad is on the edge of getting rid of it, but luckily we are stopping him! Ill let you know how it goes, maybe in a few more weeks of this training as the guy said, well see how he goes.

    He is very aggressive and if you yell at him, he will yell at you and bite you!

    Lets hope this stuff goes before he is big!
    Why are you yelling at him? How do you feel when you're being yelled at Moson??? Do you reward his good behaviour?

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    Don't yell at him, he doesn't speak English. What you're giving him is aggression, and he's giving it back.

    Put him on a check chain (the right way up of course) high up his neck, under his chin, and a lead. Take him for a walk. Tell him to heel, to walk beside your left leg. If he pulls or wanders off, check him back - which is a jerk on the chain to get his attention, not to hurt him or frighten him, that's aggression again. Ignore him otherwise - just say "heel". Nothing more. If he does it, even for a second, praise him. If that makes him jump away or muck up, check him back. Say heel but otherwise ignore the stupid stuff.

    All this time, walk along where you want to go. Walk with purpose. You are leading him.

    Relax and be confident. You are the leader. You are setting the rules, boundaries and limitations.

    You have internet access. Look up Cesar Milan. Find some videos of him working with some aggressive dogs. Don't expect to work like him overnight, but take it on board - you learned to read one little bit at a time, you can learn to train the same way. Your dog can learn to behave the same way.

    If he is being silly and using his mouth, buy a nylon muzzle so you don't fear him. When you shout at him you're displaying fear and weakness to him, he will take advantage of that.

    Losing your temper is showing a weakness - dogs are pack animals and prey on weakness.

    Walk him, walk him, walk him. On lead. Over and over.

    Give him structure, wear him out.

    Walk with your head held high and your shoulders back.

    You are the boss here.

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    Your dog isn't aggressive - he is reacting appropriately to idiotic handling. Get rid of him - best thing for him - do it before he is ruined. Get a dog when you move out of home and can look after the dog yourself. Don't blame this poor pup for what he cannot help.

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    And don't forget that this dog has been purpose bred for pig hunting. Do you think any pig dog worth his salt would back down if a boar roared at him?

    He needs to respect you, he will never fear you.

    The only other thing he has in his breeding is Sighthound - Greyhound isn't it? and they will never work for you, only with you. They will give you what they get. If you give him being cranky and losing your temper - guess what you're getting back??

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    Hey Mason,

    I had a huge, strong, goofy! Bearded Collie here not long ago. He was only 10 months old and quite a dominent male. He was quite mouthy and as silly as a circus.

    Despite this he was very responsive, by his first meal here he was sitting politely and looking to me for his food.

    If i had pushed this dog away when he jumped, or yelled at him, his behaviour would have intensified and i would not have liked to see that!

    You need to show your dog your are his leader.

    If your parents do decide to give this puppy up you will need to be 100% honest with people who may be interested. You need to make sure he will be well cared for and that they will train him. You need to check their yard/fences are safe and that they are nice people. Ideally he should be desexed before he moves into another home.

    All these things are your families responsibility, as you have chosen to own this dog. If your parents choose to ignore this advice, this little boy is at great risk of dumping, neglect, abuse or abandonment....and even worse.

    It is not your puppies fault Mason...this falls back upon the owners and the low life BYB who bred him.

    I do hope you keep in touch and seek further guidence.

    Training was a really positive step, but one session is not enough. The fact that your puppy was responsive and benefited from one training session should inspire you all to continue with it. And don't loose sight of the fact that this pup will grow up, with the right training and socialisation he will be a loyal and devoted family member.

    You owe it to him to do every single thing you can.

    Nic

    "There is enough love and concern for animals in every community to overcome the irresposibility of the few"
    Nathan Winograd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdalena View Post
    Well said Billy!
    Sad but true !!!
    Mason! Your pup NEEDS to be trained and socialized. i don't think your commited...i don't think you/your family are willing to put the work,time, love and effort. You're looking for the 'quick fix', trust me! (and every dog lover here), you won't find it. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but your pup deserves all of the above and therefore you should consider re-homing him with someone who would love to do the above for him.
    You don't really now how committed i am. I would think you would of by now?

    Like i said, i will try my best!

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