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    Well, its been a week and we have grown 1.2 kilos. Thats 11.0 kg's at 12 weeks old.
    He had a appointment for his immunisation needle and heartworm needle just before class but it didnt seem to fase him. The vet did say to keep an eye on one of his bottom canine teeth that is rubbing on the top gum a bit.
    If it gets worse it may need to be removed which is not really what i want to hear as i'm paranoid about him getting put under. Oh well, time will tell if it needs to come out or not.

    The class went well and we had about 3 new dogs join the class. All tiny little breeds except Mojo and a boxer who is a real goer.

    It was interesting watching the pups interact during thier off leash time.
    The dogs where fine. Same thing cant be said for some of the owners though.
    Because the other dogs are so small some owners where clearly scared of the boxer or Mojo goin near thier 'little darlings'. Blocking the bigger dogs access or trying to seperate them. No rough stuff went on but these owners where not giving thier dogs a chance to socialise properly. The bloke trying to break up the Boxer and some fluff ball with his feet was lucky i was in a mood to bite my tounge. It was kinda pathetic some of the over protectiveness and it did make me wonder if its the sort of thing i can expect in parks or beaches when my big fella wants to play with the little guys. Besides that though the class was interesting as we learnt about heart and intestinal worms. Worked on the sit and stay and troubleshooting toilet training. The lady who runs the class thinks Mojo is well on his way to becoming a 'gentle giant' as he didnt show any aggression and slept through the non off leash parts.
    So apart from over protective puppy owners and the tooth issue all went fairly well and we are looking forward to next week. Mojo's stuffed and is crashed out at my feet. Asleep, again.


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    I always find it a bit sad, the owners that will pick up their little dogs as soon as they see a bigger dog (even slightly bigger) approach. They're usually the ones who will then say that their dog is aggressive. Which doesn't surprise me, if they've been taught that other dogs are something to be scared of and protected from.

    That's not to say that some big dogs aren't bad mannered with small ones of course. I've been in situations walking a little dog when big dogs chased it like it was prey. Very stressful for a tiny dog. And I was always very much into letting the little dogs be like real dogs.

    It sounds like the trainers maybe missed an opportunity to intervene in the off leash interactions and teach people about dog body language and social skills, etc.

    Great to hear Mojo is doing so well. And hope he can keep his tooth.

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    Thanks Beloz.
    I feel a bit sorry for the training lady, she has her hands full yet she tries her best. She did point out the body language etc. but these people where a bit over the top and not really listening to her. Shame really as she was correct in saying it was all friendly and they had nothing to worry about.
    I think some of these smaller dogs will be aggressive aswell if they arnt allowed to 'get in there' as such. The boxer really can stand over the other dogs as is a real goer but there is never any aggression, just play. I think some of these owners need classes themselves. They might be first time owners, not sure. I hope they get better.
    I actually walked out of there tonight thinking that small breeds are much more of a handfull than the bigger breeds. They just seem to come across as hard work.


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    Puppy classes are supposed to be mostly for the owners to learn.... sigh.

    Maybe it would be more comfortable for the anxious owners if they have separate off lead time to the bigger dogs though I can't see the point.

    Frosty at 12 weeks was just over 5kg, and around 16 weeks when we started class about 7 or 8 kg - and well able to herd dogs much bigger than her (a 14kg Malamute puppy and an older 18kg Groodle puppy).

    Bigger dogs can still hurt little dogs (and humans) by accident. When a lab invites Frosty to play - I call "Bend your knees, look out". Frosty is very good at avoiding prangs tho not perfect, but Labs are crash tackle dogs.

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    Yeah, i see what you mean. It's makes me think too that just because i've chosen a large breed that dosnt mean everybody i know or meet will instantly feel comfortable around him just because i do. I guess the first time the inlaws visit will be a interesting moment, they arnt 'dog people' and hate dogs that lick, well everything Mojo see's get taste tested so we'll see. Hhmm,....inlaws dont like dog?,.... inlaws don't visit because of dog?!!! yay, yay. !!

    I'm kinda bummed there arent more bigger dogs in the class but thats ok. Its been good to watch him play with some really small, and i mean small dogs...tiny little chihu..che..chawo.. little dogs. Some sat just quivering at his boof face one or two went in for a bit of a go. He seemed to realise the little fellas where vunerable but he would just use his paws and mainly followed them closely and quickly, where as with the boxer ...well it was full on puppy contact.
    Mojo copped it and spent alot of his time flat on his back, getting dominated by the Boxer which was fine by me and the boxer owner seemed unfazed. There was no major yelping, just heavy play. I think he'll be better for it. Once back on the leads they both sat and laid down perfectly and Mojo even dozed off which was a change from last week where he hid under my chair nearly the whole night.. The smaller dogs seemed aggitated the whole class.
    Just a few things i noticed anyway..


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    The groodle in our puppy class overlapped the previous puppy class (christmas and ny came between), and it was the big bully in the previous class and hid under the chairs and bench for most of the second class that Frosty and the Malamute were in.

    I'm very careful at dog off lead areas - Frosty goes on lead if there are toddlers or small children or ladies with head scarves or umbrellas or anything a bit unusual, or noisy joggers. And if she's playing with another dog and the owner or the dog look unhappy about it I stop her too. She's pretty good about it. Mostly the little dogs are no fun anyway. Sometimes it's a dog in joint rehab that shouldnt be running around despite how much it wants to. And sometimes the owners are wusses and have no idea when their dog is having fun. Sometimes I get to educate them. What does your dog do when I stop Frosty? Hide behind you? Then yes - it's too much for your dog, or run up and ask Frosty to play again?

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    lol sounds like Mojo is having a blast. Oskar loved it, and we even got the number off his mate's owner, so we could organise the odd puppy playdate lol. I am not particularly fond of toy breeds, and I can imagine that their owners would not want a big boy like Mojo harrassing their little darlings, lol, but it is all socialisation and fun too. When we take Oskar for walks, even as a puppy, people who have little breeds, steer clear of us because they think Oskar looks like a brute lol. Most people are lovely about introducing their dogs on leash to him, when we ask.

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    When I lived in this flat and walked my landlady's JRT every day, my sighthound used to "wheelbarrow" her. She'd stick her nose in between her back legs, lift her off the ground and walk forward like that. It was the funniest thing. And perfect revenge for all those times the JRT would play bite her long legs. But then the JRT got pregnant and I had to stop my dog from doing it and she never did it again afterwards to my disappointment.

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    Thats the joys of having a Big Poochie!! As Hye said I have found little dogs are not too much fun anyway and if Ruby makes friends with one at a Dog park I usually try to steer her away because she is strong, heavy and a rough head. I would hate for her to injure another dog when there is a Beefy staffy or something that would be better suited to have a play with!

    Sounds Like Mojo Had fun and I hope his teethy don't give him too much trouble.
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    You have to remember little dogs have been killed by bigger dogs by accident, All it takes is a big foot in the wrong spot, or for the big dog to crash into the littler dog. Hence the reason we lobby for separate dog parks for big and little dogs. This is also the reason that where I do training and teach when we have play group on Sunday's we separate into toy/small breeds and medium/large breeds.

    In saying that if your dog was playing nicely ie: not jumping around, body slamming or tackling then people shouldn't be overly concerned.

    How was the boxer playing? They tend to be very over the top and boisterous...

    I can understand what your saying but remember if you took Mojo to the park and a Great Dane came to play with him you would be slightly concerned he might get hurt and might even remov him if said bigger dogs gets over excited. So I think it is a bit of stereotyping to say they are doing it because there dogs are there "little darlings", when you would probably do it to if little Mojo was playing with a dog who weighs 7 or 8 times what he does.

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