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    Good point BL. Lots of staffy x's in rescue/pounds. Also many many cattle dog and kelpie x's I notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lala View Post
    Good point BL. Lots of staffy x's in rescue/pounds. Also many many cattle dog and kelpie x's I notice.
    Hey lala I see you made it safely to ur new place after that rediculous drive haha

    So anyway, I have only met a couple of people with those designer breeds. All were fantastic pet owners, one lady I met had this huge car sticker saying cavoodles on board with all these paw prints. This guy from my dog park has a spoodle (cocker cross poodle) that thing had its own bedroom!!

    Great people, great happy healthy looking dogs!

    I dont know really what my point is now.. Im lost lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog_Lover View Post
    Hey lala I see you made it safely to ur new place after that rediculous drive haha

    So anyway, I have only met a couple of people with those designer breeds. All were fantastic pet owners, one lady I met had this huge car sticker saying cavoodles on board with all these paw prints. This guy from my dog park has a spoodle (cocker cross poodle) that thing had its own bedroom!!

    Great people, great happy healthy looking dogs!

    I dont know really what my point is now.. Im lost lmao
    LMAO.

    I own a "desinger". Shes just a scruffy little mutt. The like to call her particular x a "fo-tzu" but for us normal peeps she is a foxy/shih tzu x. Shes awesome. Quite happy to snuggle on the couch all night or shes equally as happy running along side a bike. She's small enough to carry if necessary but tough enough that if I fell on her she wouldn't break LOL. Shes super smart and got an attitude to match. However, even though she can be an ignorant twat, she is shaping up to be our most obediant dog ever without really having had any "training" (we do still have some things to work on though). And to top it all off, she's a healthy little mutt (thats not to say something wont come up later of course). She's cute as hell to look at but not so prissy looking that the OH feels too embarrassed to walk her. She is just such an awesome awesom little thing, love her to absolute bits.

    I am not sure I even had a point there, just like rabbiting on about how cool my wee dog is LOL

    And yes, we did arrive safely but what a bloody nightmare the trip was.

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    I have also looked at dozens and dozens of rescue dog in our area and the vast majority are staffy x, border collie x, and kelpie x. Have yet to see the first Poodle x or Spaniel x being given away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    The problem I have is that they are being bred for absolutely NO purpose other than to fill the pet market.

    The majority of purebreds were bred for a specific purpose and LATER became family pets. Registered breeders are not permitted to sell dogs specifically for the pet market, and rightfully so. Breed and health improvement is foremost, as is workability, only the overflow should be going to pet homes.
    This has been stuck in my mind ever since I read it. I just don't get it. Because the vast majority of dogs become companion animals. We may have some romantic attachment to the history of their breed - from a time when dogs were regarded as working animals only. But that is really merely of sentimental value in my eyes. A bit like we might be fascinated by the history of our culture, stories about the ancient Romans or the Egyptians.

    Most dogs end up as pets. So I think it would be wise to favour characteristics that make them better pets when breeding them. Unless you are one of the few breeders who supply farmers with genuine working dogs.

    I cannot at all understand this fascination with the purity of a dog's genes. I want a dog that's got the right temperament to fit in with my family living in suburbia. I could not care less what her ancestry is, just like I couldn't care less what my friends' ethnic background is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    This has been stuck in my mind ever since I read it. I just don't get it. Because the vast majority of dogs become companion animals. We may have some romantic attachment to the history of their breed - from a time when dogs were regarded as working animals only. But that is really merely of sentimental value in my eyes. A bit like we might be fascinated by the history of our culture, stories about the ancient Romans or the Egyptians.

    Most dogs end up as pets. So I think it would be wise to favour characteristics that make them better pets when breeding them. Unless you are one of the few breeders who supply farmers with genuine working dogs.

    I cannot at all understand this fascination with the purity of a dog's genes. I want a dog that's got the right temperament to fit in with my family living in suburbia. I could not care less what her ancestry is, just like I couldn't care less what my friends' ethnic background is.
    That is a good post. Far too much emphasis is put on "what dogs used to be bred for" when the fact is, they are generally not bred for that purpose now. Yea some may still be used in the original manner but like you say, the majority end up as pets.

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    So I think it would be wise to favour characteristics that make them better pets when breeding them
    Yes but what are these characteristics? And aren't they a little bit different for every potential doggy home?

    I agree that as pets - we're mostly looking for people friendly dogs, and maybe not so much on dog aggressive.

    But is it ok if the dog chases birds? or cats? or lizards? or mice? or rats? or dolphins (I kid you not - my dog tried this one, dolphin was in less than dolphin depth water - dog did not touch dolphin but she sure told it off).

    What about chasing humans? with permission only? Ie what if you want a jogging companion or agility dog? Chasing the human boss is a good thing. Sort of.

    What about watch dogs - that means a little bit toned down on people friendly. Unless it's a staffy - in which case my brother's dog will silently approach at full speed and joyfully crash tackle new person and lick them thoroughly. She got taught by my brother's older deaf dog (may she RIP now) that barking was not requried.

    Diversity of breed types and genetics (sort of), helps with choices for people. It's like cars and computers - they mostly go to personal use but do we all want the same types and configurations?

    And if we allow lots of random cross breeding - we're going to end up with proto-dog types - they'll all look pretty much the same eg the SWF.

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    I think the ancestry of a dog is very important when matching the right dog with the right home.

    If a person came to me and said they wanted to take a dog to the highest level of obedience I would say I do not have the breed (Whippet) for them.

    If they were interested in fly-ball or agility then I'd say with patience I have the breed for you.

    I think if people took much better care in choosing a breed to match their lifestyle then perhaps many dogs would live a better life.

    I own three different breeds. The two sight hounds (Whippets and Borzoi) would slot into far more homes than my Gordon Setter. Their breeding and original purpose for breeding determines the type of home they would suit best. So their ancestry does account for their personality, needs and requirements.

    I think most of us here could take home just about any dog and make it work. We are after all, all certified dog nutters. But many homes have to or should take much more care when finding the right dog.

    Yes many of the traits of a dogs ancestry has been lessened as we no longer use them in their original purpose, but I also believe a large majority of them are still within the dog, I've only to see my Whippets lure course to see the love of the chase is still alive and well and that physically they are still capable of great speeds. My gun dog still has a love of water and a soft mouth and she requires much more mental and physical stimulation than the other breeds, and it dates back to her original purpose.

    I've got nothing against the heinz variety or X breeds, having owned a couple myself along the way. But then I love all dogs, but I also know the type/breed of dog that best "fits" my lifestyle.
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    I wasn't originally talking about random cross breeding though. But about creating new breeds by crossing two known breeds. Which would not be an overnight process. But if done right, I can see benefits in that.

    As for the random cross breeds... I got a dog of unknown origin only because she was a rescue dog and had been road tested. So I knew her temperament would suit me. I acknowledge that that would not work as well if you got a puppy.

    But you are right in saying that most of us here would make it work no matter what because we are dedicated to being good dog owners and all care for our dogs to the best of our abilities for their whole lives.

    Unfortunately when it comes to less dedicated dog owners, they still seem to choose the wrong breed for their situation on masse and then dump them.

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