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    Rescues don't have shops in the main shopping centres with puppies in glass windows in the food courts. It's much harder to impulse buy from a rescue or shelter. For me it was a 1.5 hour trip each way to see what they had and just being there was traumatic. Hardly cute puppy in the window or on the website stuff.

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    Im with Anne 100% on this.

    How rude to patronise someone askign for ideas for a name. Shes already chosen her new puppy and is probably excited to take it home and thought she could share it with other dog lovers and then all this crap.

    How about in future, when a pup has already been chosen we just go along with their thread which will hopefully encourage them to continue to post, in turn teaching them and educating them in stuff when reading threads here so that NEXT time they wont in advertently support puppy farmers.

    if they are enuiring about a x breed or pet shop puppy here thats a different matter entirely but asking for name ideas for her new pup...f*** me it's rude.

    Alana (great name by the way - It's mine too) I think your pup is just to die for, hes gorgeous and I am going to give you one of my fave names as a suggestion - Podge.

    EDIT t add: Impulse buying is rubbish. I am an impulse buyer. Every single one of my dogs has been bought on an impulse...including the one from the SPCA
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    Thing is Lala , where the f**k were we rude and patronising?! They hadnt yet actually even taken said pup from the bluddy shop!

    Damn your post is by far about the rudest thing in the freaking thread!

    We could of told them to f off and never come back,how dare they buy from a pet shop bla bla bla..... but we didnt in the hope another might be informed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    Thing is Lala , where the f**k were we rude and patronising?! They hadnt yet actually even taken said pup from the bluddy shop!

    Damn your post is by far about the rudest thing in the freaking thread!

    We could of told them to f off and never come back,how dare they buy from a pet shop bla bla bla..... but we didnt in the hope another might be informed.


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    Want me to call a waaaahmbulance.

    You shit all over alana's parade. She was probably well excited to have a new puppy and ask a forum for ideas for names.

    Bet she feels crappy now.

    The fact she hasnt taken it from the shop has no bearing on anything. She probably already in love with her new pup and paid a deposit.

    Its most definitely rude and patronising for the 3rd or 4th post in a thread to be links to info about puppy mills etc etc.

    My post probably was rude but meh I aint bovvered.

    EEDit: FYI, by you i didnt specifically mean you...i meant anyone who posted that stuff just to clarify coz sometimes my posts are a bit cloudy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Rescues don't have shops in the main shopping centres with puppies in glass windows in the food courts. It's much harder to impulse buy from a rescue or shelter. For me it was a 1.5 hour trip each way to see what they had and just being there was traumatic. Hardly cute puppy in the window or on the website stuff.
    The impulse with a rescue is the emotional impulse. Rescues are DELIBERATELY advertised with their sad sob stories. "No body loves me, I was dumped at a pound" etc. People RESCUE because of an emotional impulse to save the animal.

    Trust me Hya, I have even re-homed deaf and blind dogs! People always ask me how will I find homes for disabled, maimed and disfigured dogs... it is EASIER than finding homes for a healthy adult dog in many cases!

    Many people who responded to my calls for new homes were basing their decision to acquire a new pet on an emotional impulse. Nothing more, nothing less. They haven't researched the idea of buying a rescue, they just want to adopt a dog and save its life.

    What is the ethical difference between this kind of impulse purchase and one from a petshop?
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    I think the ethical difference is where the dogs come from. Ie are rescues breeding up dogs for profit? Most rescues care about where their dogs go, ask questions and organise home checks and provide follow up advice and help to the people they home the dog with, and will usually take the dog back if it doesn't work out. MASSIVE DIFFERENCE.

    I think people who decide to take a crippled dog to "save" it have problems of their own, but at least they've thought about it, eg I'd like a dog, what is the most deserving dog? Even if not very rationally - ie what happens to the healthy puppy that didn't get a home because they took an old expensive cripple?

    Gary Wilkes - how to choose a shelter dog
    There is a common misconception that by taking a "less adoptable" dog, someone else will surely take the "more adoptable" dogs. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. There are only so many potential homes to go around. If you take a dog that looks forlorn or fearful, there is a good chance that a normal, healthy, friendly dog will be destroyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Anne

    I think the ethical difference is where the dogs come from. Ie are rescues breeding up dogs for profit? Most rescues care about where their dogs go, ask questions and organise home checks and provide follow up advice and help to the people they home the dog with, and will usually take the dog back if it doesn't work out. MASSIVE DIFFERENCE.

    I think people who decide to take a crippled dog to "save" it have problems of their own, but at least they've thought about it, eg I'd like a dog, what is the most deserving dog? Even if not very rationally - ie what happens to the healthy puppy that didn't get a home because they took an old expensive cripple?

    Gary Wilkes - how to choose a shelter dog
    Uh, uh. That is not the topic that I was debating though. I was debating the notion of an IMPULSE PURCHASE. Impulse buyers, not origin of dog.

    I agree about the ability to return the animal (and other factors involved int he sale of an animal form a pet shop) hence why I said:
    Further, there is nothing wrong with a pup being sold in a petshop when certain precautions are undertaken.

    As for a person adopting a crippled dog thinking about it - bullocks, no more thinking about than seeing a dog in a petshop window. Instead, they see a dog advertised somewhere with "Poor little Barney, he was dumped at the pound with a broken leg and so we had to amuptate it! Now he just needs a loving caring home. Email us if you think you can offer hima great home"

    Will that person then research dogs with 3 legs before they make a decision about what it might entail to adopt a dog with 3 legs? No. Will they email straight away? Yes!
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    Instead, they see a dog advertised somewhere with "Poor little Barney, he was dumped at the pound with a broken leg and so we had to amuptate it! Now he just needs a loving caring home. Email us if you think you can offer hima great home"
    Can't say I see many ads like that on Pet rescue but there does seem to be a rise in scammers/entrepreneurs with doggy sob stories on Facebook and Gumtree. I still think people have to be looking to see the ad. They don't have to be looking to see the doggy in the shop window.

    Not sure what to do about the puppy mills that advertise in the paper for buyers, or the dodgy breeders that ANKC does nothing about.

    People are impulsive - it's up to the person selling the puppy to make sure it's going to a good home.

    Then again - it's not just puppies. There's quite a few children in the same bad home situation and not enough resources to help them out properly either. Sometimes I think there should be licence to breed - children or puppies.

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    I must say that I agree that there is a massive difference between getting a rescue dog and a pet store puppy.

    I just went through the process of getting a rescue dog. I did manage to be very rational about it, even though I felt oh so sorry for so many dogs I saw listed or at the RSPCA. But I called up a couple of foster carers about dogs and had them completely talk me out of getting their dog. There was no up-selling at all. They were brutally honest about what the dog required and if they had the slightest doubt about me being able to meet the dog's needs, there would've been little chance of me getting the dog.

    Which I really appreciated! I thought they were almost stricter than the RSPCA is these days.

    So you could still get people who are tempted to go for the most needy dog, but if they are not fit to care for it, they will have a hard time getting it. Or they would have to be very good liars anyway.

    A colleague just adopted a wild 18mo border collie cross rescue and she was not allowed to take him home until she'd spent hundreds on getting her fence extended and completely secure. Nothing much 'impulse' about that!

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