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    You won't ever stop the demand though and to think so is ludicrous, unless puppy farmers are stopped from selling their wares.

    Further, there is nothing wrong with a pup being sold in a petshop when certain precautions are undertaken. It is the SOURCE of the puppies that is the issue, not the sale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    You will never stop everyone buying from petshops, nor do I think people should. Instead of making people who buy from petshops feel guilty, turn your anger and advice towards the people who actually commit the abuse - the puppy farmer! Send letters to pollies and let them know you wnat it stopped. Direct your anger and energy to where it will do the most good.
    Agree what is there to achieve by making me feel awful about this puppy I already love so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    You won't ever stop the demand though and to think so is ludicrous, unless puppy farmers are stopped from selling their wares.

    Further, there is nothing wrong with a pup being sold in a petshop when certain precautions are undertaken. It is the SOURCE of the puppies that is the issue, not the sale.
    I dont think its that far fetched to be honest. You wont be able to completely stop the demand but I think it can be made so low that its not profitable for a petshop to sell them.

    I dont think it works pushing one side and not the other. I think both farmers and petshops need pressure on them equally because they are equally resposible.

    Its like a Junkie and a drug dealer, one wouldnt exist without the other. Both need equal attention. Yes you will never rid of the trade itself, unfortunately its there for life. YOu can however try to make it not profittable, not worth it for as many as you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog_Lover View Post
    That all made sense in my head I promise!
    You're so cute sometimes!

    I'd be interested to see how many people who purchase from a pet shop are already aware of puppy farmers. I am sure you are likely to find that they know of puppy farms but it doesn't stop the purchase. You won't stop the purchase. You can't even bring in a law against it as it will be a restriction of trade.

    Petshops are NOT the problem, nor are the purchasers of puppies. The problem is PUPPY FARMS.
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    To be honest I knew nothing about Puppy farmer and all that till maybe 2 years ago, if that, while on an all night Youtube session.

    I didnt know there was that many dogs in rescues, I didnt know there were that many animals being put to sleep. I didnt even know that there was all different breed rescues, I just thought it was the RSPCA and like council pounds!

    Its very sad to think concidering I have own dogs and cats all my life and also did an animal attending course when I was 16 and voulenteered at a vet clinic for 6 months ( for the course )

    Naive yes, uncommon No. There is that Dollars for collars campaigne that I am hearing all over the radio and on the intenet to vaccinate dogs overseas, why isnt that about helping animals here?

    I up until about a month ago also thought that a healthy dog needed a wet nose and that if Ruby got pregnant with a cross bred all her future puppies would be duds. Unfotunately I am not Lying!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog_Lover View Post
    To be honest I knew nothing about Puppy farmer and all that till maybe 2 years ago, if that, while on an all night Youtube session.

    I didnt know there was that many dogs in rescues, I didnt know there were that many animals being put to sleep. I didnt even know that there was all different breed rescues, I just thought it was the RSPCA and like council pounds!

    Its very sad to think concidering I have own dogs and cats all my life and also did an animal attending course when I was 16 and voulenteered at a vet clinic for 6 months ( for the course )

    Naive yes, uncommon No. There is that Dollars for collars campaigne that I am hearing all over the radio and on the intenet to vaccinate dogs overseas, why isnt that about helping animals here?

    I up until about a month ago also thought that a healthy dog needed a wet nose and that if Ruby got pregnant with a cross bred all her future puppies would be duds. Unfotunately I am not Lying!!
    I agree that many people have limited knowledge in welfare areas, hence why we shouldn't attack them or make them feel guilty. They aren't being ignorant deliberately, and they aren't intentionally hurting animals, the puppy farmers KNOW what they are doing though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alana555 View Post
    Agree what is there to achieve by making me feel awful about this puppy I already love so much
    Firstly, kudos to you for sticking around , no matter how things may appear on the surface , it is not our intention to drive you away


    However, having said that

    I realise holding onto the idea that we will stop all purchase of animals from pet shops might be a pie in the sky one but I will still attempt to prevent it when given the chance.

    Here , Hya as well as myself were given the chance.
    We already know where the majority of these pups come from so were hoping that by showing you , you might feel different and look elsewhere hence we have reached one more person .

    I also really do not see where we were that unfriendly ? I guess I really have to call dumb on this one ..... I wrote a comment but deleted almost immediately as I was tired and at odds with myself and my world , not you . I was trying to be nice

    The farmers and peddlers are a whole different ball game.... as Anne has said, sadly , they know exactly what they are doing . However grinding that to a stop is bringing government in on side , something being worked at very hard by a very lot of people. Of course its not going to be easy or quick.....

    So in the meantime , if I see a chance to educate someone , I will try
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    C'mon, pet shops that sell puppies and kittens are part of the problem. They encourage impulse puppy buying, and the puppies are not kept in the best conditions in the shop either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    C'mon, pet shops that sell puppies and kittens are part of the problem. They encourage impulse puppy buying, and the puppies are not kept in the best conditions in the shop either.
    Rescues also create another kind of 'impulse' buying - the saviour. Should they stop selling dogs?

    There will always be impulse buying. People will ring up a breeder on impulse or see an ad and buy a pup. Should breeders stop selling dogs?

    I simply do not beleive that impulse buying is the issue. Sure, it is part of the problem but an impulsive purchase happens in many scenarios, not just the pet shop scenario.

    The condition that the pups are kept in is also very contraversial. I know personally of breeders whos pups are kept much the same. The difference is, in a pet shop, WE CAN SEE how the pups are kept. We can't see how our neighbours keep theirs though.
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