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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    Personally, I think you cannot introduce your puppy and dog to enough different dogs and people. My view is that dogs enjoy and are entitled to a social life outside the home. When they go out they can smell all these other dogs and they seem to have a natural curiosity about them. And there are so many different personalities out there that require different ways of interacting with, just like with people.

    As far as dogs greeting other dogs go, there are the stalkers, the chargers, the starers, the circlers, the barkers,... And of course big, little, heavy, light... I am watching my 10mo deal with all these different types on our walks and I expect she'll experiment with different ways to interact with them all. A little fluffy white dog snapped at her yesterday because she didn't back off when its body language showed it was scared. Things like that are good learning experiences.

    Even when you don't let your dog go up to other dogs when they're off the lead - which personally I find a missed opportunity for mental and physical exercise - there will be situations where interaction cannot be avoided and experience with their own litter and housemates may not have taught them enough about how to respond to some dogs.
    Personally I would not have allowed things to progress so that the small white fluffy dog felt the need to snap. That is negligent on you IMO.

    You've just helped to make someone elses dog even more fearful of larger dogs.

    When around other dogs I expect focus on me and my commands. My dog doesn't enjoy playing with other dogs outside the home and frankly most people lack evena rudimentary understanding of canine body language and I will never put my dog in a situation where he feels he has to attack another.

    We do not go to dog parks etc. We go to obedience training, we are around a dozen or so other dogs every obedience class and we work around them. They are not there to be played with, barked at nor are we there for my dog to carry on like a pork chop.

    Dogs are NOT human. They do NOT require play time with other dogs, in fact my dog now is happier than the farm dog who before he went to the farm was attacked at dog parks, he was heavily dominated and now has many issues with other dogs because of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelanBatty View Post
    Personally I would not have allowed things to progress so that the small white fluffy dog felt the need to snap. That is negligent on you IMO.

    You've just helped to make someone elses dog even more fearful of larger dogs.

    When around other dogs I expect focus on me and my commands. My dog doesn't enjoy playing with other dogs outside the home and frankly most people lack evena rudimentary understanding of canine body language and I will never put my dog in a situation where he feels he has to attack another.

    We do not go to dog parks etc. We go to obedience training, we are around a dozen or so other dogs every obedience class and we work around them. They are not there to be played with, barked at nor are we there for my dog to carry on like a pork chop.

    Dogs are NOT human. They do NOT require play time with other dogs, in fact my dog now is happier than the farm dog who before he went to the farm was attacked at dog parks, he was heavily dominated and now has many issues with other dogs because of it.
    My dog wasn't being boisterous, she was only sniffing the other dog. I was waiting for the little dog owner's cue that it was going too far and trusted her judgement. It wasn't a dog fight, it was just a little dog standing up for itself. Quite effectively too. So I do not agree that the small dog would now be more fearful of bigger dogs as it got to experience that it has the power to tell them to stop.

    I agree some dog parks can get out of hand and some dog owners can go too far with the 'the dogs will sort it out themselves' attitude.

    I will have to agree to disagree on the rest of your post. It would be very hard for me to replace the enjoyment my dog obviously gets out of playing with other dogs. My old dog on the other hand very, very rarely wanted to play with dogs. She was much happier chasing rabbits or exploring the bush. Just a different type of dog.

    And if you were insinuating that my dog 'carries on like a little pork chop' I do take offense. I do not tolerate anti-social or nuisance behaviour from my dog. It's not because I do not want to train her as intensively as you do yours, that I would not think it necessary to have full control over my dog.

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    Nope, reference to those who go to obedience classes to let their dogs bark, run around and be a nuisance to everyone who is there for a purpose.

    My dog has a lot of fun playing with the dogs we know. Playing with the ones I have met time and time again without my dog first. Once I know the dog and can accurately judge it's behaviour and reactions then I allow my dog to play with them and they have a ball. There are tonnes of photos of my dog playing with other dogs on here and the other forum I'm a member of. I will never allow my dog to play with another dog I've just met in the street, and that is certainly not because I haven't met any.

    My point was you should have called your dog off if you noticed the other dog getting worried - teaches your dog to pay attention to the signals that the other dog is giving and to back off at the first warning, not when it goes to the extreme of snapping. The other owner may not have noticed that their dog was uncomfortable - may have been her dog, but Ben (farm dog) wound up with fear aggression issues because of something very similar, small dog snapped and left holes in his lip because I ignored the other dog opting to listen to it's owner saying it's fine....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    Personally, I think you cannot introduce your puppy and dog to enough different dogs and people. My view is that dogs enjoy and are entitled to a social life outside the home. When they go out they can smell all these other dogs and they seem to have a natural curiosity about them. And there are so many different personalities out there that require different ways of interacting with, just like with people.

    As far as dogs greeting other dogs go, there are the stalkers, the chargers, the starers, the circlers, the barkers,... And of course big, little, heavy, light... I am watching my 10mo deal with all these different types on our walks and I expect she'll experiment with different ways to interact with them all. A little fluffy white dog snapped at her yesterday because she didn't back off when its body language showed it was scared. Things like that are good learning experiences.

    Even when you don't let your dog go up to other dogs when they're off the lead - which personally I find a missed opportunity for mental and physical exercise - there will be situations where interaction cannot be avoided and experience with their own litter and housemates may not have taught them enough about how to respond to some dogs.
    Great Post!

    I Pretty much have the exact same oppinion.
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    When we had this other dog(Pup) I took him to a friends place who owns a 3 year old Border Collie.
    They got on so good and it was pleasing that this male dog actually let another dog into his area, but he did.
    They ran around for the full hour I was there.
    then my mate got the frisbee out and threw it.
    Both dogs took of after it. His dog knew how to read the flight as he had done this many times. My dog sort of just followed his lead.
    Then there was a time that they reached it together.
    Indie placed his mouth on it and growled deep in his throat. It was enough to make my dog move away and leave it alone.
    I thought tht this was a great lesson on dog ettiqute.
    I will be takeing Murphy there soon to have a play with him, I have waited as Indie is a little rough and I knew Murphy would not have been able to handle this.
    But now he has grown and has some weight about him. He is ready for this rough and tumble now.

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    We had our 1st puppy class last night. My wife and me both went as she is apart of his training also so it was better that she comes to see how things go and what or what not to do.
    We had pups in the class we had a little Shouzer (sorry about the spelling)A Sausage Dog cross and 2 little Maltese Crosses, plus a Lab Retriever and Murphy a Cattle dog.

    They gave them all treats so they wuold relax alittle more ,which I have to say Murphy was already. We done a lot of talking and question asking. And this is where people clam up.So we took this as our chance to ask. bit by bit the actal owners became relaxed also.

    They then took all the little pups into this area where they could play with the other little ones. While Murphy and the Lab had to wait.The younger lady came back and took the leads of both of us and she was controling both. This was their playtime.

    Murphy was not the tallest but he was by far the mast stockiest there. And he began to show his true colours which I know what they are. He loves to try to dsominate. Ahd here he was doing his best to do this to the little girl Lab. And all she wanted to do was play. Murphy only wanted to dominate. The lady kept a hold of him while she let the other one of. And she was happy and Murphy was still doing his best to be boss.

    But over all he and we seen the benifits to this training though it isn't real training at the same time. I am happy that he now has the chance to meet up with other breeds for the next 3 weeks. I am thinking he will mellow down from this 1st lesson.

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    The puppy classes are great for seeing how to manage what your dog does with other dogs. My dog was the smallest and class clown and fastest and not quite the naughtiest. The Malamute and teenage owners took that title.

    Mostly they're great for giving owners a start on how to train and general how to look after puppy info in an environment where they can see they are not alone...

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    a little Shouzer
    perhaps a miniature schnauzer (minis)?

    My wife and me both went as she is apart of his training also
    Yes I and Guy went together as well

    Rid, sounds like you had a good time there. The first session can be chaotic I reckon.
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    Thanks for the spelling on the Schnauzer, and yes I think the lady said it was a mini one.
    What a great little pup it was. They took all the little ones to play and this one didn't want to play.
    But when they came back to where we all were it decided that it is time now to play.
    The lady said she has never heard a beep out of it, and was happy to hear it, yes it was a little late but showed that it was likeing being there.

    I am looking forwards to the next session where I think they said it is time to teach them the sit comand. But we have got that one down at home but it will be different with all the distractions. So this should prove interesting.

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    my puppy starts puppy obedience this Thursday night.

    I did think about the vet puppy class a few weeks back as they really did make it sound wonderful, but decided to just start the obedience and progress through the stages with him.

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