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    No-one has said that preservatives and additives are good for dogs.

    Personally, I choose to avoid preservatives in my diet, and in the diet of my family and my animals.

    However, as stated, domestic dogs have evolved over the last 30 thousand years and the nutritional needs of a dog that lives on a lounge, in a house, and goes for a walk once a day is not the same as a wild animal, that is on another twig of the tree, that may travel kilometres in a single day looking for food.

    Wild dogs do not even eat daily. Are you going to feed your dogs every other day instead of twice a day?

    A wild dog digests raw meat easily. Many domestic dogs can not digest raw meat and find it too rich.

    As for studies, everyone these days is a google expert. I am sure you can also google. I don't have the desire to 'prove my comments' on this forum by regurgitating studies found on the www.

    Looking at domestic dogs in SE Asia in particular shows that dogs do not need meat to survive. There many dogs in many areas that survive on a diet of coconut husks and scraps. Do they live long lives, I doubt it, but they manage to have litters and continue to survive.

    The simple fact of it is, a dog will survive on commercial food, kibble, vegetables, a raw diet, a prey diet or barf. Feed your dogs on what you feel is best, but remember that it shouldn't be as hard as what many dog owners now want to make it. Dogs have lived to ripe old ages after being fed PAL all their lives, and equally there are those who have lived to ripe old ages being fed raw, barf or something else.

    As they say - the best food for your dog is the food it does best on. Don't get caught up in the hype of dog diets and don't let anyone guilt trip you into changing to something else.
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    Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    No-one has said that preservatives and additives are good for dogs.

    Personally, I choose to avoid preservatives in my diet, and in the diet of my family and my animals.

    However, as stated, domestic dogs have evolved over the last 30 thousand years and the nutritional needs of a dog that lives on a lounge, in a house, and goes for a walk once a day is not the same as a wild animal, that is on another twig of the tree, that may travel kilometres in a single day looking for food.

    Wild dogs do not even eat daily. Are you going to feed your dogs every other day instead of twice a day?

    A wild dog digests raw meat easily. Many domestic dogs can not digest raw meat and find it too rich.

    As for studies, everyone these days is a google expert. I am sure you can also google. I don't have the desire to 'prove my comments' on this forum by regurgitating studies found on the www.

    Looking at domestic dogs in SE Asia in particular shows that dogs do not need meat to survive. There many dogs in many areas that survive on a diet of coconut husks and scraps. Do they live long lives, I doubt it, but they manage to have litters and continue to survive.

    The simple fact of it is, a dog will survive on commercial food, kibble, vegetables, a raw diet, a prey diet or barf. Feed your dogs on what you feel is best, but remember that it shouldn't be as hard as what many dog owners now want to make it. Dogs have lived to ripe old ages after being fed PAL all their lives, and equally there are those who have lived to ripe old ages being fed raw, barf or something else.

    As they say - the best food for your dog is the food it does best on. Don't get caught up in the hype of dog diets and don't let anyone guilt trip you into changing to something else.
    Did not really think there would be any proof presented about this 'evolving' thing Ann, since dogs, all dogs, still have the same dental formation as any other carnivore nothing has changed, true some survive better than others on far from ideal diets, that is no proof of anything 'evolving'.

    Nutritional needs of anything depends on activity level, working domestic dogs have different needs than couch potatoes too.

    Any domestic dog having or seeming to have trouble with raw meat is probably being fed disproportional amounts of it without enough other roughage or maybe being fed raw meat full of preservatives. Or may have been given a gutfull of Roo which is rich and needs to be fed in small amounts until the dog gets used to it, packaged Roo meat is often full of preservatives, dogs do not do well on these.

    Our own dogs do far better on meaty bones with some minced hen frames and veg than they do on kibble which causes large smelly bowel movements, when fed on more suitable food they digest it far better, bowel movements are smaller and dry up fast, do not smell near as bad, and, if you miss picking them up for a day you do not find maggots in them, they go too dry too fast for vermin to bother with them, having lived on the land where wild Dingoes were I have seen the same sort of motions from them as from dogs fed on meaty bones, so conclude this is more natural for dogs than the looser smellier less digested gloop done by dogs on bad diets.

    If someone wants to have a dog it ought not to be too hard to through it a bone most days surely.
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    *yawn*
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    Actually I think MM has some pretty valid points . I'm not about to get into a debate ( just dont have the yakka for it at the moment ) But really...a dog is still a dog.

    There has been no evolutionary traits that require all this hype over "this food or that food" .
    Yes,I have a dog that cannot tolerate certain things . But is due to human error from when he was a pup.

    I belive a multitude of dogs dietry probelms to be human error.
    I certainly dont recall having to feed all these 'super' foods or 'groups' as a youngster and our dogs were all shining with good health.

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    I think MB and Anne are kind of on the same page as each other and dont know it.

    First Point is - Dogs dont needs all this fussy sh!t some people seam to think their dog will die without.

    Second Point - You cant feed dometicated dogs like wild dogs as in willy nilly, they need regular meals
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    Pretty well put there BL
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    It is a case of disagreeing that they agree...

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    So Veges... Good or bad haha

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    My dogs are on a diet. A vet in the surgery I go to wanted me to put them on a pal diet and said veges were not the way to go. I will still be bulking up my dogs dry food with mashed pumpkin, carrots etc and brown rice if they are still hungry. I have been doing heaps of research and lots of sites recomend doing so. They have always had scrap veges from our plates. (Pretty hates peas and will pick them out and leave them beside the bowl))

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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