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  1. #11
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    Just so you know. I would rather ne staked out in the desert, naked, covered in honey over an ants nest with crows picking my eyes out while still concious than having a puppy, a 1 and 3.5 yr old together full time.

    Puppy will nip, jump, kids will scream, it will steal and shred any toys etc near them.

    Of course it is all doable with constant supervision and survival tactics.

    Mind you, being an old fart in my 50s may be tainting my outlook, lol.

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    I know it's your opinion but we've thought about this alot and it's the right decision for us. I'm home full time so pup (and kids lol) will be constantly supervised and pup is going straight to training
    I know it's a big responsibility though

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    You have far more of a head start than I did 30 years ago. I was totally uneducated re the dog's needs and stuffed it up big time. These days it is so great having forums and being able to look up stuff on the net.

    I will be here to offer any suggestions that may help though others are better at it than me.

    Going through chemo and house training 2 pups was enough lol.
    We can all do stuff if we put our minds to it.

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    Thanks so much I love that I can ask for help here and (hopefully) not get judged on my decisions.
    It's been 7yrs since I trained a puppy! Maybe I can toilet train my 3.5yr old and the pup at the same time haha

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    The kid will do well on a potty chair in front of the tv and big praise.

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    I only have the one child but I loved having puppies while she was a littly.

    I just love watching them grow side by side

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    My eldest is dog mad. Actually he loves all animals but has been wanting a puppy since he could say it. He is sooo excited!

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    I would strongly recommend that you get a crate for your pup. I am a recent convert to crates and my current lab youngster is the first of my Lab pups that I got a crate for and it has been a godsend. My reasons for getting the crate were:

    • I have a very open plan house
    • I had two older dogs when I got pup - my previous pups were only dogs
    • I have young grandchildren, two of which were aged 4yrs & 14months when I got my pup and my daughter was pregnant with twins who are now 15months


    I attached a playpen made up from wire panels that you buy from Bunnings in a pkt of 4, I used 12 of these to give him quite a large play pen as I have a large family room that I set it up in. I purchased an XLarge Collapsible Metal Crate that has two doors, so I could leave one of the doors open so he could go from crate to playpen anytime. With him being in the family room it was very quick to get him out of the playpen/crate to the backdoor for toileting and for the first couple of weeks, I actually bunked down in the family room, so that I could hear him stirring and take him outside very quickly for toileting. I did this with his predecessor as well as a pup and I had both of them toilet trained within a couple of weeks. When I returned back to my bedroom, he had the company of the two older boys who slept in the family room. If he was an only dog, then I would have put the crate in my bedroom, which would have been a bit of squeeze as I woudn't have left him on his own in the family room, particularly whilst he was a pup.

    Majority of pups don't like the crate initially and will kick up a bit of fuss for a couple of nights until they get used to it. Part of the crate training is to make it a positive place for pup to be, so give them treats/meals/toys in the crate so they want to be in there. Also the crate becomes their "safe haven" away from kids/other dogs and obviously confines the dog, particularly at night, so they can't wander around and toilet in the house. They normally don't like to toilet where they sleep and you can buy dividers for the crates so that they don't toilet up one end of the crate as you normally buy the crate with the adult size of your dog in mind as the crate isn't only used whilst they are puppies. Attaching a playpen to the crate gives them more room to move play in a confined space, but for night-time you can shut them in their crate.

    My boy loves his crate, he was very easy to toilet train like all my lab pups have been and he was an extremely good and easy pup to raise. His bite inhibition was excellent from day one, so we were never subjected to the nipping/chewing that most puppies do and he wasn't very destructive at all, never destroyed his toys and any destructiveness was fairly minor, particularly in comparison to his predecessor who was Mr Destructo Extraordinaire. Because of all this, I was able to let him have a lot of time out of his crate and puppypen which he loved as he just adored my older boys and from day one he buddied up with my eldest boy who was 3months shy of his 14th birthday when pup came home and they remained best buddies until I lost my oldest boy at 15yrs old a couple of months ago.

    I would recommend a crate/playpen arrangement over putting pup in a laundry or bathroom as they are not only cold places but pup is effectively being "shut away" from their family and this distresses them and they kick up a ruckus. One thing you will learn about Labs is that they are an extremely closely bonding dog and the people that make the biggest mistakes with their Lab pups are the people that either make them outside dogs (sleep outside and spend most of their time outside away from their family) or shut them away in laundries/bathrooms and then wander why the pup is so upset. If you have room in your bedroom, then I recommend you buy a crate and put the crate in your bedroom so pup is close to you and this will help lessen the anxiety for pup as well as assist with toilet training as you will be able to hear pup stir. You can setup a playpen in the family area so you have a way to confine pup and an area for timeouts away from the kids or when you are busy doing housework etc, but pup is still near his family. As pup grows she will outgrow the playpen and be able to push it around, so you will need to do timeouts etc in the crate, by which time pup will be used to it and if need be you can move it out of the bedroom to another area of the house.

    Also bear in mind that Lab pups grow into very strong exciteable adolescents/youngsters and they can knock small kids over, not intentionally but normally in an excited state, so a crate can still be used for timeouts even when your Lab is no longer a pup. When my youngster is getting too boisterous with my grandkids, I put him in the crate to calm him down and the grandkids know that when he is in his crate they are to leave him alone. I go over to the crate and point to the entrance and say in and in he trots and he calms down instantly. Young kids naturally get excited and don't realise that their excitement in turn excites the dog and trust me it doesn't take much to excite a Lab youngster

    Anyway please give the purchase of a crate some serious consideration as it was one of the best investments I made for my youngster. Funnily enough my two older boys would take turns of having a snooze in his crate, so I actually brought a very large XXXXL soft crate so the 3 of them played musical crates, particularly during the winter. Now that I only have 2 boys, they have a crate each, but still play musical crates. The doors of the crates are left open and because my youngster has been such a well behaved pup and youngster, I haven't had to lock him in his crate at night since he was around 4-5months old and would just leave the door open so he could come and as he liked, as sometimes he liked to sleep on the couch with big boys when he was big enough to get up on it. When I dismantled the playpen I was able to reuse the gates for wide entrances within my house to restrict pups movements to certain areas of the house and progressively removed these over time.

    Apologies for the novel

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    Thanks Labsrule you're always very helpful!
    We are going to get a crate but funds are a bit tight so it is def on the must buy future list

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    LARGE 36' Collapsible Metal Pet Dog CAGE CRATE - Vebo Pet Supplies Sydney

    $80 give or take what delivery is (they don't do PO boxes).

    Last person I gave that link to would have saved way more than that in vet fees if she'd got one or two to keep her fighting dogs separated. Crates are pretty cheap these days.

    I'd definitely recommend the metal mesh crate over the soft sided ones with a puppy cos most of the soft sided ones are not chew proof - so the crate training needs to be done with a chewer / puppy in a metal crate. It's good to hang a blanket or sheet over the sides of it - though you may need to put a cardboard lid on top of the crate and under the sheet to stop the dog pulling the sheet in through the sides and eating that.

    An owner of a super chewer recommended this one - which is soft sided but stopped her dog.
    Pet Courier Travel Crate - Bowhouse - Australia's Award-Winning Store for All Your Dog and Cat Needs
    they cost more and that shop says they're out of stock so I don't know where else you can get them.

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