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  1. #11

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    Hi
    Well we all wan't a dog, and specially that one because his a good looking one. We just dont want it to bite, its strange it doesnt bite my dad, and if im outside with him or any one else, he doesnt bite, as soon as we are alone, he bites.

    Im hoping we dont get rid of him, but we need it to stop biting - for our own safety. I am willing to take it to puppy school, but dad doesnt want to pay the extra costs - assuming you pay on termly fees?.

    For now, we are keeping the dog for a little while longer and seeing what happens. I will have to call the previous owner and ask him how his pups are going. Because he bred them for the first time (had 12) and sold 1 to us. So i want to know how his ones are going etc.

    Otherwise, his a good dog, he just bites alot, i dont understand why, we feed him, play with him, care for him, why would he still bite his owners!

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    Hi Mason,

    I understand you are in a difficult position as your Dad is paying the Bills. Is it possible for you to put some money toward the fees? even if it's $10 it shows you are commited and serious.

    I know you all want a dog, but responsibly owning a dog and meeting it's needs means a lot more than having a dog in your yard.

    He needs training Mason, esspecially as he is a large breed. He will also need desexing at an early age (before 6 months) this will also help him settle and his dominent behaviour will soften.

    Ring the vet, get the cost of classes and ask what training you will work on, when the classes start etc.

    Then sit down with your Dad and ask for his support.

    Focus on the great benefits of training and how you will all benefit as a family.

    Tell him this is important and that you are prepared to do the work.

    You have all decided you want this puppy, and now you need to follow through in responsibly addressing the issues.
    Animlas are not a disposable commodity, they are a lifetime commitment

    I had better not comment much on the Backyard Breeder responsible for this litter other than to say i hope he never breeds again. He has absolutely no idea of what he is doing. I would love nothing more than to drag him through the pound and show him what people like him are responsible for. Argggh

    He has sold your puppy weeks to early and as a result he has missed out on crucial socialisation with his Mum and siblings. This is why you are now having so many problems Mason.

    Anyway, let me know how you go ok! do you think your Dad will listen to what you have to say?

    Nic

    "There is enough love and concern for animals in every community to overcome the irresposibility of the few"
    Nathan Winograd.

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    Umm im not sure, it would have to be very cheap, i can pay so can my older sister, well see, i have to find somewhere very local and cheap.

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    The vets near us had puppy preschool (4 classes) for $120 but the local obedience club is $46 for the annual fee (for a family - more than 1 person helping to train the dog) and then it was $1 per class. I'm sure prices would be around the same price near you. This class can be started at 12 weeks old. I'm not sure how old your pup is.

    Distraction really is working for us too. Puppies are drawn to movements and noise so wave around a rope or get something with a squeek and when he bites distract him with this.

    We have also found that when he is tired he is less likely to bite so we take him for 1-2 walks and try to have him meet other dogs and find new smells. When we come back he is too exhausted to bite.

    Good luck!

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    Hey Mason

    I think you will find puppy school is pretty standard (cost)

    I think that you and your sister are amazing in helping out financially.

    Geez we are caught inbetween a rock and a hard place here...

    If you and your sister sat your Dad down and had a serious chat re your puppy and training and the commitment you will make what do you think he would say?

    What do we have to work with here in swaying/educating him?

    Between the bunch of us i think we can sort this anyone? anyone else?

    Nic

    "There is enough love and concern for animals in every community to overcome the irresposibility of the few"
    Nathan Winograd.

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    One of these schools will hopefully be near you
    tullamarine dog school - Google Maps

    The best one price wise would probably be altona but it's not easy to get to without a car

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    Hey Mason.
    I know you're only young and that's why i think it's important for you to make your dad realise what he has taken on. He obviously agreed to accepting a dog into the family, and as and adult, he should have known what is involed in owning a dog! This includes money. If he is not willing to pay for puppy school ( approx $40 +) then is he willing to pay for the pups first 3 vaccinations and yearly ones after that. Plus worming and fleas treatment ect. These are all important things, not just luxuries. Please try and make your dad realise this! If you show that you are willing to put the effort in then he should put the money in!
    I don't want to sound like i'm judging you, because i'm really not. It's just that even if getting a pup was your idea, he is the adult and should take responsibilty.

    All the best!
    Jess.

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    Also, if you think you need help with your dad i'm sure if you got him into the forum we could all have a good chat with him to help your family out (just like Nic said)!. I'm sure everyone would want to help get the best outcome for this situation!

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    Hi Mason
    This is sooo sad. Look, dogs are not fluffy toys. They are a commitment. You have to provide them with what they need- it's the owners responsibility and your dad being an adult in this situation should agree to do what's best for everyone...which in my opinion is training! Mason ! Well done!!! for asking for help and peoples opinions, and don't be too hard on yourself. I think the key here is education - for all and the dog. 1. Why don't you google puppy aggression, puppy biting etc. and learn as much as you can about puppy behaviour. 2. Once you've done your research. Print some off and give it to your dad to read and the rest of the family.
    3. Make a few calls to see how much training costs. Write it all down
    4. Hopefully your dad by now will understand the importance of puppy training and help with costs.
    PLEASE! don't loose your cool with the dog. Don't hit him, don't yell into his face, don't encourage biting in play. All the above will make things worse. Ignore bad behaviour. Yelp and leave - teaches him that, that behaviour will not get him anywhere. PLEASE! reward, reward when he's good.
    If all else fails. I would consider re-homing the pup. Take Billy up on her offer and have a chat....Keep in mind that training is probably the smallest expense...what about desexing, vaccs, worming, illness etc. Will your dad be happy to pay for all that? If the answer is no...and there is no other way to pay then it's not fair on the pup.
    Wishing you best of luck!
    Please keep us informed!

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    Yer Well i don't know. I have to find somewhere cheap, and only then he might consider it.

    Last night we let him in the patio room to sleep for the night, we woke up, all our herbs we had in there, were all on the floor, and all dirt everywhere lol.

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