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    Sorry to hear about Axle's lameness and it is good that he is having x-rays as these will either rule in or out the various conditions that can cause lameness. It can be very worrying when a youngster pulls up lame and even more so in breeds or combination of these breeds (crossbreeds) that are prone to joint issues like Hip & Elbow Displaysia.

    I also think you are doing the right thing by getting a second opinion, particularly if your boy is diagnosed with Hip Displaysia or an injury that may require surgery, like a ruptured/torn cruciate ligament.

    A diagnosis of Hip Displaysia doesn't always mean worst case scenario and depending on the severity (Mild Displaysia, Moderate Displaysia or Severe Displaysia) it can be managed without medical or surgical intervention. The non medical management includes keeping the dog lean, putting them on chondrotin & glucosamine supplements (e.g. Jointguard or Glyde or human grade chrondrotin & glucosamine capsules/jointcare powder) and anti-inflammatory supplements like fish oil capsules. Also it is important that a displaystic dog gets regular exercise (walking and moderate running) to help build muscle around the joints to strengthem them. If the dog needed additional help to manage the displaysia with medical management, there are prescribed anti-inflammatories and Cartrophen Injections. I personally would never consider surgery for a dog diagnosed with mild displaysia and may be stretched to even consider it for moderate displaysia and I would be very wary of a vet or specialist (orthopaedic surgeon) that recommended surgery for a mild displastic dog.

    Insofar as crating is concerned, keep an open mind, as depending on what your boy's diagnosis is, if any surgery is recommended and proceeded with, then you will really need to consider crating as an option to restrict your boy's movements for a specified period of time (surgery dependant) otherwise the surgery may be undone or complications caused by his unrestricted movement. Don't think of a crate in terms of a cage or how you would feel being caged, think of a crate as a tool to confine your dog to improve his chances of having a 100% uncomplicated recovery if he has to undergo surgery particularly. Anyway you will cross that bridge if you have to depending on what xrays reveal and vet/specialist recommendations.

    Wishing you and Axle all the best and hope you receive some good news from the xrays. Keep positive and remember there are are many causes of lameness and some youngsters just injure themselves repeatedly without a worse case scenario diagnosis. You are both in my thoughts and I am sending lot of positive thoughts and healing vibes Axle's way.

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    Great post Labsrule

    Roz

    The first rule of injury / pain in first aid is rest. Depending on the cause of pain, gentle exercise to prevent muscles losing their strength and size might be advised.

    If you were an athlete and you injured yourself running around, you'd be advised to rest, and if you wanted to keep playing sometime in the future you would limit your activity until you were diagnosed. If you then had surgery to try to fix it, you would be stuck with bed rest for a few days to a couple of weeks - and not allowed to go back to a desk job for four to six weeks and not allowed back on the sports field - depending how bad it was - for months to years.

    You don't want to give this opportunity for the dog to injure itself more. Painkillers allow the dog to think it is better than it is, so with that goes a huge responsibility for you.

    Did you ask the vet what kind of activity would be ok?
    Did you tell the vet you hate cages?

    I know several dogs who have done themselves damage jumping on and off couches and beds and they all ended up with crate rest when the owner couldn't be supervising them (ie on lead).

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    Hi Lala
    I will keep you up to date. He does seem to be improving and what the vet said was that if the tablet helped then it won't be major but he goes in tonight so we will see. I even feed him inside and that was one thing I said I would never do. I have mellowed with this beast and I call him a beast cause he is so gorgeious and loveable. He gives that much love and if I don't let him in as soon as I get home from work I get barked at as to say well you're home how about me. I can't even put the kettle on he runs my life. So if anyone wants to say I don't care about him well they better see he gets a better life than we do.

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    Thanks Labsrule; I will keep an open mind and I agree with you. Just a mild injury more than likely. But xrays will rule out all the worst case scenarios so I am happy to do the xryas for that reason. thanks for yuour good wishes and thougfhts.

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    Hi Roz,

    I hope you get to the bottom of it, we are in the same process with our little girl.

    She started limping on her right leg 5 weeks ago, a trip to the vet and a week later sedated to check her cruciate, all was then clear. Anti inflamatories brought in under control but it then worsened, back to the vet for xrays that really showed nothing, so we sent them to a specialist for a second opinion.

    While waiting on them to come back I went for a prelim visit with a chiro, he took one look, checked her cruciates and said go back and see your vet, she has two blown cruciates.

    I obviously retorted with, oh no they were checked 3 weeks ago it can't be. He said the left one had only gone in the last week, so they wouldn't have found that one and the right one was probably only a very minor tear so hard to identify when they sedated her. Since then she had completely ruptured both.

    We are heading back to our vet this morning to discuss our options.

    Over the weekend I have priced and looked at crate options as I know once surgery happens it will be essential. ATM we are not crating her as someone is with her 24/7 and we can ensure she stays quiet. The pain for the most part is keeping her quiet though, she doesn't really look to run around. If there is an occassion that someone can't be with her though she will be in a crate no matter how much she whinges. Whinging won't hurt her but a completely stuffed knee joint will.

    Good luck with her lil one. If it helps though, you aren't the only one in the boat

    Cheers Aleesha

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    I can't even put the kettle on he runs my life.
    Um, this isn't doing the right thing by your dog. Who do you think ought to be better at making decisions in the best interests of both of you? You or your dog?

    Dogs are not people and they are complete hedonists, they don't think about their long term future, they only think about right now. And while this in balance is good, it's not the best way to make all your decisions. Another cream bun? Yes please. Another cream bun? Yup. Another cream bum? Nom nom nom yum - got another?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelby-001 View Post
    Hi Roz,

    I hope you get to the bottom of it, we are in the same process with our little girl.

    She started limping on her right leg 5 weeks ago, a trip to the vet and a week later sedated to check her cruciate, all was then clear. Anti inflamatories brought in under control but it then worsened, back to the vet for xrays that really showed nothing, so we sent them to a specialist for a second opinion.

    While waiting on them to come back I went for a prelim visit with a chiro, he took one look, checked her cruciates and said go back and see your vet, she has two blown cruciates.

    I obviously retorted with, oh no they were checked 3 weeks ago it can't be. He said the left one had only gone in the last week, so they wouldn't have found that one and the right one was probably only a very minor tear so hard to identify when they sedated her. Since then she had completely ruptured both.

    We are heading back to our vet this morning to discuss our options.

    Over the weekend I have priced and looked at crate options as I know once surgery happens it will be essential. ATM we are not crating her as someone is with her 24/7 and we can ensure she stays quiet. The pain for the most part is keeping her quiet though, she doesn't really look to run around. If there is an occassion that someone can't be with her though she will be in a crate no matter how much she whinges. Whinging won't hurt her but a completely stuffed knee joint will.

    Good luck with her lil one. If it helps though, you aren't the only one in the boat

    Cheers Aleesha


    Hi thanks for that. We have our results and yes I got it from pysio as well. He is on rimadl for about 1 week and kept quiet. He is doing alot better and had his first walk today and no it was a short one. How old is your girl by the way. He has no damage but very mild signs of arthritis. very very little bit nothing to worry about but he bones and all are still growing. I am not worried about him, the vet will check him out again later this week but everyone is happy with him at present. No excessive play for him anymore which he disagrees with but he will get over it. Thanks for everyones feedback but now we just watch and see. I am going to strat him on Seaflex though for his joints, cause that can only help and 3 vets agree.

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    Roz,

    She is 13 months now, and has to have surgery on both knees. We are waiting on specialists and insurance companies to set the date!

    She is doing ok with the reduced movement and is liking her fully enclosed kennel, so hopefully the transition to a crate won't be too painful for my ears, LOL
    Cheers Aleesha
    Lilly, OH & Boof ..... the 3 things that make life tick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelby-001 View Post
    Roz,

    She is 13 months now, and has to have surgery on both knees. We are waiting on specialists and insurance companies to set the date!

    She is doing ok with the reduced movement and is liking her fully enclosed kennel, so hopefully the transition to a crate won't be too painful for my ears, LOL
    What breed is she. I hope it all goes well for you. They are tough little mites really and if they know they are loved it helps them alot I reckon. Axel has a very mild little show of arthritis but we are going to discuss Seaflex for him. Otherwise he has had two days of a small walk and loves it. Exercise walking is good for him but not rough play that he enjoys.
    Thanks for that info and keep in touch.
    Regards Roz

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    She's an Amstaff Roz
    Cheers Aleesha
    Lilly, OH & Boof ..... the 3 things that make life tick!

    All posts made under the name of "Shelby-001" are copywritten and may not be used in any publication or media without my prior written consent!

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