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    Question Looking for a Bc Breeder NSW

    Hi I want to get a border collie and I want to know if anyone knows a great breeder in NSW Australia if you have a link to websites that would be great

    Can you also please tell me if you have had experance with this breeder and how you found the whole process of getting a puppy

    Im looking for a working line dog

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    Definitely do NOT buy a puppy off gumtree.
    No reputable breeder would flog their puppies off on a site like that.

    Dogzonline however is a good place to start.
    Breeders listed on there are all registered breeders but it still pays to do your homework in regards to the health and temperament of their dogs. Registered doesn't always mean reputable.

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    Does Dogzonline have working line BC's on there though? I was under the impression that DOL served the ANKC reg'd dogs?

    I found these guys: PUPS & STARTER DOGS FOR SALE - Kaden Working Border Collies

    and these guys: Bauer's Working Border Collies

    Good luck on your search.

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    thanx for the links will be a great place to look

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelanBatty View Post
    Does Dogzonline have working line BC's on there though? I was under the impression that DOL served the ANKC reg'd dogs?

    I found these guys: PUPS & STARTER DOGS FOR SALE - Kaden Working Border Collies

    and these guys: Bauer's Working Border Collies

    Good luck on your search.
    ANKC registers all purebreds, working or show line. They also have a companion register for cross-breds who compete in agility etc. In my opinion all dogs should be registered with the ANKC/Local Clubs so we can help regulate breeding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    ANKC registers all purebreds, working or show line. They also have a companion register for cross-breds who compete in agility etc. In my opinion all dogs should be registered with the ANKC/Local Clubs so we can help regulate breeding.
    ANKC is what it is - a register for showbred dogs. It is not involved in anyway in the breeding of working line dogs thank goodness! I have a beautiful showbred BC and she is totally useless on my sheep but my working dogs are dynamite.

    My working line dogs are registered with them on the sporting register for agility events etc but their breed is not recognised.

    My working line dogs are registered on their own working breed registers. My kelpie is with the working kelpie council that holds the pedigrees of all the registered working line kelpies. There is a similar register for working line BC and Koolies and a working sheepdog register. These are the registers that count with the working fraternity when looking for the best lines of working dogs.

    My BC comes from some of the oldest and purest lines of Scottish Border collies going back many generations and this pedigree is not recognised by the ANKC as having any value apart from letting him on the sporting register. His breed is not recognised on his ANKC rego papers neither are his ancestors, same with my purebred working kelpie. Where do they think the original BCs and kelpies that make their showbreds come from LOL.

    You cannot compete in the working sheep dog association herding trials unless your dog is on a bona fide working register. ANKC dogs are not accepted by the working sheep dog association unless they undergo a rigourous working ability assessment, to ensure quality control at these trials.

    I will post some working line breeders. I cant give advice on these breeders as I get my working dogs from working breeders in WA where I live.

    I do know that Tully Williams of Campaspe is one of Australias foremost stockmen and he has written an excellent book on breeding and training the working sheepdog. He has produced some of the best working dogs of all time and his knowledge on working dogs and the selection and combination of desirable working traits is incredible. I do know someone who has one of his dogs and it is excellent. However I dont think that he lets his pups go before they are 4 months old so he has a good idea of what he has and who it might suit and what he needs to keep for his breeding program. This doesnt suit everyone, but you would have to check.


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    I get my working dogs from working breeders in WA where I live.
    do you know if they sell interstate ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shedeivl View Post
    do you know if they sell interstate ?
    Depends what you want your dog for.

    They might but they will only sell to a working home or a sheep trialing home and they only breed a few litters a year from their proven dogs and I dont think they have any pups at the moment. They will not sell their dogs to pet or sport homes. One thing I have noticed with the Scottish dogs is that their paws are not quite as tough as the Aussie bred dogs in summer when working on hard gravelly ground. But mine has a natural cast to die for LOL.

    Actually I just noticed they have pups ready in early July - but again they are serious sheepdogs and will only be sold into a working home. This litter will be from pure Australian lines. Half the litter have already sold.

    There are other breeders in WA who will sell pups into sport homes if they have a suitable pup. You can check out some links on the West Australian Working Sheepdog Association website - they have some of their breeders listed there.

    I would be inclined to start closer to home first and see if there is anything you like.

    I dont know what you want your dog for but there is a breeder in NSW whose dogs are ISDS registered. She imports her breeding dogs from the UK and has produced some top agility dogs, and they are good sheepdogs as well I think, but not sure on this. She has a strict sterilisation policy and requires that all pups are hip scored by their owners at a certain age and they cost! Guimere Border Collies. I guess by defination she is a sports breeder but her breeding stock are from ISDS lines.
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    well i want a for dog sports k9 freestyle agility disc dog fly ball
    but I have a friend who a farm who said I can give me and the dog a go at sheep herding on hoildays

    im also going to one day oppen a dog traing school and would bring my dog in as a mascot
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