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    Quote Originally Posted by Masha View Post
    Damn. I got my pup at 13 weeks, and she is a bit fearful. Reading this, I really don't want her to have any frightening experiences. It's just hard, since we got her so late, and I now understand why she is scared around other dogs. We enrolled her into puppy classes, fingers crossed nothing bad will happen

    just make sure socialisation is gentle to begin with and with dogs that do not show any aggression and dominance

    Puppy pre-school is excellent...helped Sumo a lot. He was a bit scared of other dogs at the beginning, but school really helped him

    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post

    just make sure socialisation is gentle to begin with and with dogs that do not show any aggression and dominance

    Puppy pre-school is excellent...helped Sumo a lot. He was a bit scared of other dogs at the beginning, but school really helped him

    Good luck
    Am I glad to hear that - when I first read the calendar I thought, OMG do I stop socialising her?
    Yea, I'm trying to socialise her with a very friendly Lab pup, 11 weeks, but I think he's a bit too friendly. They haven't seen each-other in the last few days though, and in those last few days, she's stopped trying to lunge at other dogs. I'm trying to convince my friend (owner of the Lab) to come to the same puppy classes as Dora, so hopefully everything will be alright. Now that I know this information from the calendar I'm a bit scared to do anything with Dora... I don't want any issues with her in the future.

    PS. How did you get your siggy to be in the middle of the page, not the side?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masha View Post
    How did you get your siggy to be in the middle of the page, not the side?
    When you make your siggy, click on the center button. It's next to underline option, the buttons with the lines. Highlight your siggy and click the middle line button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masha View Post
    Am I glad to hear that - when I first read the calendar I thought, OMG do I stop socialising her?
    Yea, I'm trying to socialise her with a very friendly Lab pup, 11 weeks, but I think he's a bit too friendly. They haven't seen each-other in the last few days though, and in those last few days, she's stopped trying to lunge at other dogs. I'm trying to convince my friend (owner of the Lab) to come to the same puppy classes as Dora, so hopefully everything will be alright. Now that I know this information from the calendar I'm a bit scared to do anything with Dora... I don't want any issues with her in the future.

    PS. How did you get your siggy to be in the middle of the page, not the side?
    Socialisation never stops...it just has better effect between 8 - 18 weeks

    Puppy pre-school is definitely the go...it is supervised etc.

    Crap...I can't remember HOW I centered it...other member might know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    Socialisation never stops...it just has better effect between 8 - 18 weeks

    Puppy pre-school is definitely the go...it is supervised etc.

    Crap...I can't remember HOW I centered it...other member might know
    Yep. Her first class is on the 10th which isn't too far away. I'm looking forward to it.

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    The possessiveness has now been more accurately defined as my own problem with my daughter not chloe (naughty jodz) so thats not an issue on chloes behavior thats for sure...

    As for jumping up i completely agree with you, whilst i have my doubts it'll go away i have not and will not relax on being consistent in not accepting this behaviour.. We continue to ignore her tills he calms down and to be honest it may be taking less time? but i wouldn't be putting money on it... time and patience

    Im glad i'm not the only one who saw "training in drive" as a bad idea.. I just didn't see it working at all, and will have to consult some books and other training ideas on how to get her interests up.. To be honest, at the moment I'm not soo much worried about what she does whilst we're at dog training, as thats more of a learning point for myself to then train her at home, so if she does 10 mins of training then gets bored (losses interest in food) well thats fine, i'll remember them and try them at home.> i read somewhere that training shouldn't be for more then 10 mins at a time anyhow? Your thoughts?

    RE: socialisation and seeing how it goes, i feel i should clarrify.. both dogs were introduced by trainers not just myself a gf getting together with dogs off leash to see how it went! It was on leash for a 5 second meet, and on those 2 occasions the reaction was pretty quick.. Thankfully the staffy x and her came around in the end, but i would not ever leave the 2 of them alone together... There was tension when they first met and i dare say it wouldn't take a long time for it to come back either..

    Something that interested me was when you said there are ways to help her socialise better when i said she plays with Rocco (lab x) and lets him win (hes the puppy) would you not see this as "cute" or normal behaviour? (i say cute in the fact that she knows he's a puppy and isn't trying to dominate him?) I've taken her to the dog beach and she was fine with the other dogs being there etc.. I was a little reluctant to let her be "in the mix" with the other dogs and kept our area away from the dogs, but so far apart from the previously mentioned incidents so far so good.. Be curious to hear more from you on that

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    OCD in dogs.
    This is treatable. With a SSRI anti-depressant, given at 3 x the dose. The dose is built up gradually. It takes 3 wks of full dose, before you will see a change. Initially, you see sedation, but that dissappears after a couple of weeks.
    Once the dog is able to resist the compulsions to complete the behavioural loop its stuck in, training treatment can be added to consolidate the removal of the obsessed thinking and compulsion to repeat behaviours.
    Ive seen the worst case of OCD ever, including human ocd in a dog. Who, 6 wks into treatment with said SSRI's, was completely released from his torment of chasing his tale to the detriment of his health. He would be triggerred in this behaviour by his shadow on the ground, he'd look around for what was causing the shadow, see his tale, then chase.
    FOR 15 hrs A DAY! Non stop, till the sun went down, and his shadow went away. Not stop to drink, eat, interact because he could not. And completely cured with SSRI's.
    See a Vet and ask for a referral to the nearest animal behaviourist for accurate diagnosis, as this is a very rare condition in dogs, and extreemly rare to see it in a 9 month old puppy! There could be something else going on, and a full check up from the vet should be your first point of call.
    Good luck with this, and let us know how it goes wont you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bernie View Post
    OCD in dogs.
    This is treatable. With a SSRI anti-depressant, given at 3 x the dose. The dose is built up gradually. It takes 3 wks of full dose, before you will see a change. Initially, you see sedation, but that dissappears after a couple of weeks.
    Once the dog is able to resist the compulsions to complete the behavioural loop its stuck in, training treatment can be added to consolidate the removal of the obsessed thinking and compulsion to repeat behaviours.
    Ive seen the worst case of OCD ever, including human ocd in a dog. Who, 6 wks into treatment with said SSRI's, was completely released from his torment of chasing his tale to the detriment of his health. He would be triggerred in this behaviour by his shadow on the ground, he'd look around for what was causing the shadow, see his tale, then chase.
    FOR 15 hrs A DAY! Non stop, till the sun went down, and his shadow went away. Not stop to drink, eat, interact because he could not. And completely cured with SSRI's.
    See a Vet and ask for a referral to the nearest animal behaviourist for accurate diagnosis, as this is a very rare condition in dogs, and extreemly rare to see it in a 9 month old puppy! There could be something else going on, and a full check up from the vet should be your first point of call.
    Good luck with this, and let us know how it goes wont you.
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    Training in drive.
    Well, must say, id never heard of it before coming here. I printed off K9 Triangle of Temptation and he was right, it takes a dog 2 days to learn this technique.
    Im really impressed. REALLY impressed.

    So have gone searching for other articles. Ive found several, unfortunately, written by some verbose lady, so out of a 4 page article, i have to chop and delete 2/3 of the info, to get to the actual content i need.

    K9,
    is there a book you would recommend? Something succinct, sticks to the point, with few anecdotal distractions. The woman im reading at the moment has an awfully tangential writing style, which i find distractingly annoying. And because im scimming over her drivvel, i may be missing vital points.

    ? does anyone know of a training school or trainer in Victoria using this technique? Im going to ask at the GSD club, which we were due to attend last sunday but couldnt make it. Next week will have to be week one now.

    Bernie is coming along in leaps and bounds. Has thankfully almost learnt bite inhibition! with all cept my daughter, who is teaching him to bite her in play. Whilst he doesnt do this for the rest of the family. Dogs are so smart in knowing that each of this family, has different rules. Just like our last dog, who'd pull everyone around for a walk, but would walk with a loose lead for me.

    Im having to be strict with myself and do road work with Bernie. There is so much off leash area around us, i tend to favour this for our walks, road walking is dull. Today, im introducing him to cafe culture. Something a dog of mine needs to learn as im a caffiene addict. And I have a friendly cafe proprietor who'll bring him a treat when he brings my coffee as he's a sucker for dogs.

    Our neighbours have barking dogs and work all day from 6-6pm, the duration of which they bark for! It appears, that as we've had Bernie raised next to this fence, he's accustomed to the racket they make, and doesnt reply or pay it any attention. I hope this continues into his sexual maturity. I cant stand yappy dogs. And previous boy was a rottie, the strong silent type.

    Our camping trip we took Bernie on was a success. We met with a young man, who had an intellectual disability, who fell in love with Bernie and his fluffy fur on his face. The pup was soooo gentle with him. Different than he is with others. And most of the children at the camp came to play. They helped us teach him to swim, Bernie had a wonderful time, made lots of new friends, of all different ages. We even had people delivering bones for him!

    He met cows, horses, ducks. Wanted to heard the cows, nervous initially of the horses but behaved well. And ignored the ducks. So far, so good.

    Im having such a lovely time raising this pup. My last was a very aggressive rottie we rescued at 8 months, and so many things had to be avoided. He, with a lot of training, was great with the family, but lethal with anything else, whereas this dog, is so friendly, so confident and i swear came trained allready somehow.

    Just goes to show, that "never again" thoughts you have when you lose a much loved pooch, is truly temporarily. I never thought id have the same depth of feeling with anther dog, yet here i am, one smitten owner once again. I love my hubby for this pressie! its great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jodz View Post
    Im glad i'm not the only one who saw "training in drive" as a bad idea..
    K9: Perhaps I missed it but, who said training in drive was a bad idea?

    To be honest, at the moment I'm not soo much worried about what she does whilst we're at dog training, as thats more of a learning point for myself to then train her at home, so if she does 10 mins of training then gets bored (losses interest in food) well thats fine, i'll remember them and try them at home.>
    K9: Well you would be teaching her at training that food rewards are boring then, there will be no way to "get her interests up" if you train this way.

    RE: socialisation and seeing how it goes, i feel i should clarrify.. both dogs were introduced by trainers not just myself a gf getting together with dogs off leash to see how it went! It was on leash for a 5 second meet, and on those 2 occasions the reaction was pretty quick.. Thankfully the staffy x and her came around in the end, but i would not ever leave the 2 of them alone together... There was tension when they first met and i dare say it wouldn't take a long time for it to come back either..
    K9: what do you think came of this "controlled meet"?

    Something that interested me was when you said there are ways to help her socialise better when i said she plays with Rocco (lab x) and lets him win (hes the puppy) would you not see this as "cute" or normal behaviour?
    K9: No. I see this as practising an undesirable behaviour.

    (i say cute in the fact that she knows he's a puppy and isn't trying to dominate him?)
    K9: I am always amazed how people "know" what a dog thinks.

    I've taken her to the dog beach and she was fine with the other dogs being there etc.. I was a little reluctant to let her be "in the mix" with the other dogs and kept our area away from the dogs, but so far apart from the previously mentioned incidents so far so good.. Be curious to hear more from you on that
    K9: So far, so good?

    lol..

    Thats not the way I build programs for people, we cant have a fingers crossed strategy & "see what happens".
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