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    Hi i just got a baby labrador. Hes 6 weeks old.
    He was hand raised as he had to be separated from his mother after birth and for 6 weeks he grew up with his brothers and sisters so he doesnt miss his mother.

    He goes to sleep about 11-12 (in the bathroom, door closed, lights off).. the first night he woke up at 3.. cried(realllllllly loud) till 6 i couldnt take it anymore after that. Not sure if thats bad giving in after 3 hours.

    Last night he lasted till 4: 30.... but cried till 6:30 and i let him out again.

    I want him to stay there till about 8. Also he will go outside soon once he grows up a bit.

    Is it worth it to keep trying to ignore him if hes eventually going to sleep outside anyway? Also did i do bad by giving in even though it was many hours later?
    Any advice is appreciated thanks

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    That phase normally doesn't last long with most dogs.
    It sounds like he's getting better too so you'll be OK
    I try to wait for a break in the howling and let them out when they are quiet. I also try to be as calm as possible when I release the dog and don't make a big fuss, too much of a fuss could seem like praise for the noisy behaviour.
    I try to save the praise and excitement for positive behaviour I want to reinforce and reward and not to put much emotion into behaviour that's unwanted.
    Staying calm at that stage is a great time to start conditioning the dog to be calm when you greet it after any time away.
    If you get excited and pat or praise too much when you greet the dog you are more likely to mould his behaviour into a dog that tends to go berserk and jump all over you.
    I try to get up early enough to catch them before their first poo so I can can reward and reinforce that as pups really pick up on pooing outside fast (when they do that's a great time to reward and make a fuss)
    I think it would take a pup with excellent control over its bowels at that age to be able to hold out until 8 Oclock and I'd try to get up earlier even if it's just to let the dog do it's business outside, but if it can't be avoided paper training or a litter box can help.

    But that being said we all go through it when we bring a pup home so "I feel ya" as Dr phil would say.

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    Ohhh I really like what you said about not praising him too much when you greet him. Its something i do a little bit cause i get excited haha.

    I leave newspaper for him to do his business in at night so by 8 o clock i meant him just staying in there till 8 until i wake up. During the day i take him outside to do his business.
    Thanks for the tips

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    6 weeks is way too young to be separated from his mother or his siblings. I assume there was some health problem with the mother or risk to puppies safety?

    Most dogs will not want to soil their sleeping area, and a puppy cannot last all night without a pee until it is about 12 to 14 weeks old or maybe older. So it will cry when it needs to be let out. If you don't take it out you risk problems with toilet training - ie the dog will take longer to know where it is supposed to pee. I had my puppy sleep next to my bed - on lead and I ran the lead under me so she couldn't get up without waking me up and I took her outside anytime she woke up or I set alarm for 3am ish - which seemed to work if I took her out at 10:30pm and 6:30am as well. I had her from 10 weeks and only needed to do that for a few weeks.

    I know lots of people have only dogs that stay outside but I just feel they're social animals and that's not the right thing to do. My dog is allowed inside and sleeps next to my bed at night. If she had to be an outside dog all the time, I think I'd want her to have a doggy friend. But I also know she'd spend all night chasing cats out of the back yard - loudly - and nobody would enjoy that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    6 weeks is way too young to be separated from his mother or his siblings. I assume there was some health problem with the mother or risk to puppies safety?

    Most dogs will not want to soil their sleeping area, and a puppy cannot last all night without a pee until it is about 12 to 14 weeks old or maybe older. So it will cry when it needs to be let out. If you don't take it out you risk problems with toilet training - ie the dog will take longer to know where it is supposed to pee. I had my puppy sleep next to my bed - on lead and I ran the lead under me so she couldn't get up without waking me up and I took her outside anytime she woke up or I set alarm for 3am ish - which seemed to work if I took her out at 10:30pm and 6:30am as well. I had her from 10 weeks and only needed to do that for a few weeks.

    I know lots of people have only dogs that stay outside but I just feel they're social animals and that's not the right thing to do. My dog is allowed inside and sleeps next to my bed at night. If she had to be an outside dog all the time, I think I'd want her to have a doggy friend. But I also know she'd spend all night chasing cats out of the back yard - loudly - and nobody would enjoy that.
    We pretty much do a similar thing here....Either crate in bedroom or on leash, depending on the dog.......I would have thought that after all that time, you would have had a big mess to clean up. I always suffer from lack of sleep when I get a new puppy, because we do so many toilet trips. to me toilet training is the most important and they are only babies.

    6-8weeks is a very important time for a puppy to be with it's litter-mates, or at least to be socializing with other dogs (which is contrary to it's vaccinations). the mother dog is not as important at this time, but being with other dogs and usually it's litter mates are preferred.
    You will have to make extra effort with your pup.
    Because we do not like to socialize our puppies with other dogs too early (due to vaccination periods) having a puppy so early can cause problems. this is a very important part in where they learn to be a dog. It allows the wrestling, play time, food sharing and so on.......
    I am not saying it cannot be done and some trainers choose to have their puppies early, but they also put in a lot of socialization with dogs and of course humans and all other environments

    Good luck with your puppy, be patient, kind and loving
    Pets are forever

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    You have been already given any advive I really would have given & I also agree 6wks is far too young to be away from mum & litter mates. I see Pearl still teaching her son Bear now even though he's already as big as her so I try & give pups as much time with mum, litter mates up untill 6 wks & between 6 & 8 wks whilst still learning from mum they are introduced to other pack members also. I actully prefere pups to be close to 10wks before going to new homes as long as the breeders is doing the right socialization with the pups. Most of mine go between 8 & 12wks but never before 8wks. They only get first needles @ 6 wks & should be given 2wks for full aminuty to be active before changing their homes. I agree with Newfie that after 6wks they can learn most of it from other dogs without mum but it must be made a priority & done with the right dogs otherwise the pup can end up scared & shy but nothing is really as good in my book as litter mates, mum & well behaved pack members.
    Pups need out after every meal as soon as they wake & approx every hr inbetween at 6wks but will get better this is another reason 8wks is better. Never ignore if there is ANY chanse it could be needing to tolit. At 3mths or 12wks my dogs can last from 9pm to midnight & are then let out at 6am from their crates/pens or house.
    Dogs are social animals & it really confuses them when they come into a new enviroment & the rules are 1 way & then a few mths later they are locked out & wonder why, what did they do? They then start all sorts to bad behavours to get attention & because they are bored & loney. All dogs want to be a part of your pack(family) & locking them out feels like a form of punishment when they have already been sleeping inside. You should just put some kiddy gates to restrict the dogs movement inside & with some general obedaince, crate training, 2nd weekly bath, reg grooming & a daily walk it's very easy to have a clean house, nice furiture & a well bahaved indoor dog that will be an asset & have you thinking why you ever wanted to lock him out.

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