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Thread: Collecting a Puppy at 7 Weeks Old... Too Young, or No Harm?

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    Question Collecting a Puppy at 7 Weeks Old... Too Young, or No Harm?

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    I would much prefer to get our new pup (Golden Retriever mix) when she is 8.5 weeks old because I have read that this is good timing, but circumstances are putting pressure on us to collect her earlier, at just 7 weeks old. It's not the breeder pressuring at all. It's just unavoidable practical circumstances .

    If it turns out that we have to collect her this early, how bad is it really? How serious (or not) are the disadvantages of missing out on the 11 extra days with her mum and siblings?

    On the plus side, at 7 weeks we can collect her in person and transport her with us by road (4 hours!) in the car. If we wait until 8.5 weeks she'll very likely have to travel 4.5 hours by DogMovers in a van with other dogs.
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    Its illegal for a registered breeder or pet shop to sell a puppy under 8 weeks.
    From 3 to 7 weeks is the puppies socialisation stage.
    Most puppies are still getting weaned from 6-8 weeks, thats why 8 weeks is the minimum age to sell them, some even wait 10-12 weeks before they leave the mummy.
    Pups under 8 weeks don't have much mental capacity for learning(like toilet training for example).
    Obviously this breeder isn't registered or ethical(don't take the offensively, they're breeding GR crosses) and shouldn't even let you take the puppy before 8 weeks.
    Technically, theres nothing stopping them or you taking the dog.
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    Well, I got my broder collie at 6 weeks and shes very smart too. Shes learnt her potty training and shes already learning to sit well u could say she knows how to. And she dosnt whine or nothing she loves us so much. But I guess you knida right. But the breeder with our puppy had cancer so she had to sell the puppies qiuck I dont know why.

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    The breeder musn't have been the three Rs, responsible, registered and reputable
    I just hope you are getting the pup to spend as much time with other dogs as possible, you'd hate for the dog to become dog aggressive cause it never learnt to socialise.
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    ooo, You don't know how much time we spend with her. She has heaps of toys and she has time to play with my and my brohters. I spend all the time I have with her. Someone is always home with her the longest time shes been alone is mayb an hour but shes always well behaved.
    When she reachs 10 to 20 weeks were going to mix her with some other dogs, also my aunties dogs. I love her soooooooooooooooooooo much

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    For the first part of that response, thank you. I didn't know that there were strict formal guidelines regarding pre-8 weeks or about the weening timeline. I have not yet broached this with the breeder, but I imagine I would have got an automatic "no" to an earlier collection. She seems very competent and responsible. We will plan for the 8.5 weeks and just find a way to make it work.

    Unfortunately yes it is offensive to claim that crossing canine races is "unethical" - just as offensive as speaking with disdain about crossing human races. It's just racism and it's not nice. As this is the Australian Purebred & Crossbreed Dog Forum I had expected there would be no such comment here, especially from a Moderator, so I am somewhat confused. Perhaps it's best not to get started on this though.
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    Just cause im a moderator doesn't mean I can't not only express my opinion, but the truth.
    I own crossbreeds, no problem with owning them. I have a problem with people breeding them.
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    Yep I agree with Myf, no issues at all with a cross breed dog, but I have major issues with the breeding of them.

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    The 'Canine Socialisation Period' occurs between the third week of age and the sixth or seventh week. To remove a pup from the dam and littermates prior to the eighth week is considered by most behaviouists and trainers as an interruption to proper canine socialization. There is a trend in dogs removed early from the litter to display aggressive tendencies later on. Whilst I know you'd obviously prefer to go and collect your pup in person, the benefits of leaving the pup with his/her mum and litter mates, IMHO, outweighs the having to travel later on. Letting your pup develop his/her canine skills, then the human interaction skills second, will lead to a more balanced dog later on.

    Remember: a balanced and healthy dog is one who knows he/she is a dog, not a human!!! That's not me judging you, just a tip for anyone who reads this.

    Good luck with your puppy, whichever you decide :-)

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    Unfortunately yes it is offensive to claim that crossing canine races is "unethical" - just as offensive as speaking with disdain about crossing human races. It's just racism and it's not nice. As this is the Australian Purebred & Crossbreed Dog Forum I had expected there would be no such comment here, especially from a Moderator, so I am somewhat confused. Perhaps it's best not to get started on this though.
    Ouch... I find going to backyard breeders unethical but to each their own.

    And according to the ANKC (Australian National Kennel Council) yes, it is actualy highly unethical and you automatically receive a ban if you are caught breeding mixes.
    You can read the Ethics for responsible dog ownership here:
    Australian National Kennel Council

    It also states that puppies are not to be sold under 8 weeks of age as said by Myf above.

    If you haven't paid a deposit cancel your order and find yourself a reputable breeder... you and the dog will benefit in the long run because ethical, reputable breeders breed healthy dogs and do genetic testing on the parents to ensure the healthiest possible pups.

    What are the hip and elbow scores on the parents of the pup you are getting?
    If you can't answer that back away... no... run away from this breeder.
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