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    Help, I'm depressed! I will never get a new dog at this rate...

    In in my area the breeds I want are rare so pups get allocated to buyers sometimes when they are less than two weeks old. It's driving me batty because I don't understand how anyone can choose their companion for the next 15 years without knowing anything about its personality and with barely any idea of what it's going to look like!!!

    BUT because so many people are willing to choose a pup that way there are never any left for me to consider by the time they reach the age for meaningful choosing, which I think is bare minimum 4 weeks old.

    I'm so depressed because I feel like it's a rock and a hard place! There's no way I can select a 12 day old puppy and know it's the right one for me, yet it seems to be the only way to get one.

    Is it even normal for breeders to allocate pups so young?

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    No it's not normal for a breeder to do this. Most breeders want first look at the litter for themselves anyway. The best breeders wait much longer though they often let potential buyers come and meet puppies from an early age as part of their human socialisation. It doesn't mean the buyer will get the puppy they liked when it was 2 weeks old though. Breeders do like to have more than enough potential buyers interested for their puppies so they all go to good homes.

    I think you need to find another breeder or breed. What you're saying is not good practice by a breeder.

    Also you want to be careful you're not being sucked in by a puppy mill. I can imagine them doing this kind of thing. They're worse than real estate agents - yes we've got three others interested in buying... and then these mysterious buyers evaporate at auction.

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    I say thanks to Hyac for the 'choosing a puppy' info, but some breeders do 'sell' or 'allocate' their pups at that age.
    If the breeder really is that brilliant and the dogs really are that impressive, then some people will even sit on a waiting list waiting for the pups to be born and then get chosing priorities.
    You say they don't know their personality or what they're going to look like at that age, but just from watching and seeing their parents you get a pretty good idea. Thats the whole point of titles, health and temperament testing.

    Im currently in the process of narrowing down Dalmatian breeders I like, and have sent out emails to a couple asking if they're planning on litters all the way in late 2011/early 2012! I have seen photos of their dogs and puppies and like what I see, so closer to the time, I may put my name down before they're even born.

    What breed were you after? Im not sure if you're going about it the right way...
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    I had my name down for a pup before Kirri was even born.. Female JS pups are very hard to come by due to the boy / girl ratio with JS.

    I basically did the same as aussiemyf7 when researching for the breed.
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    Wow, why is that mitte? Thats really quite strange...
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    Wow, why is that mitte? Thats really quite strange...
    I guess this is the part leading to the question ?
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    Female JS pups are very hard to come by due to the boy / girl ratio with JS.
    I'm not sure if it is peculiar to JS, but litters seem to have approx 4 male to 2 females or thereabouts. Some litters only have 1 female.
    The reason why, I just don't know.. Maybe genetic in the breed ?
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    Hmmmmm, something I may need to ask the boss tomorrow!
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    I was under the impression that a good breeder will choose the right pup for a particular person/family.
    For some breeds you can wait up to 2 years or more.
    What breed are you interested in?

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    We were on a waiting list for Boss.

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    I can imagine a breeder would have a waiting list of buyers and if there are six puppies available, then the top six buyers on the waiting list would get to go look. But at this point it would still be open to negotiation. Although the sixth buyer might not have much choice except to say I like this puppy or I will wait for the next litter, in which case the the breeder could ring up the 7th buyer on the list and offer them the same choice.

    If that's what you mean by puppies allocated at two weeks, I'd be with Mitte, and say they were allocated before they were even born. And you need to get yourself known on a friendly basis with the breeders you like so you can be at the top of their buyer list. I imagine with the best breeders, they'd want to know a lot about where their puppy was going and they'd rather not sell it off to some random stranger.

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