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    Just welcomed the lovely Darla to the family, 6.5wk old Bull Terrier X Shar Pei and she is just awesome!



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    As its the first puppy I'm raising where I will pay for everything I am unsure as to what to go with. I also have a Bull Terrier X Whippet who is about 4.5yrs old.

    I ideally do not want to spend a fortune on food and was wondering what the best value food is. A quick trip to Kmart netted some Purina Supercoat Puppy and some Pedigree puppy milk. I'm also starting to feed the older dog Purina Supercoat Adult.

    Is Supercoat OK? It was $29 for 12kg which I thought was a pretty decent price as I figure I will go through about 2 bags a month once the puppy is off the puppy food. Is there something a fair bit better without being 2 or 3 times as expensive like all the others I see recommended, as I have had dogs all my life raised as per my parents on a mixture of canned, meat roll and dry food and they have all lived long full lives and been beautiful animals.

    Its only after reading through all these forums that people say how bad it all is and all that jazz.

    Any tips you can offer me on raising the pup would be awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by llmoose View Post
    Just welcomed the lovely Darla to the family, 6.5wk old Bull Terrier X Shar Pei and she is just awesome!



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    As its the first puppy I'm raising where I will pay for everything I am unsure as to what to go with. I also have a Bull Terrier X Whippet who is about 4.5yrs old.

    I ideally do not want to spend a fortune on food and was wondering what the best value food is. A quick trip to Kmart netted some Purina Supercoat Puppy and some Pedigree puppy milk. I'm also starting to feed the older dog Purina Supercoat Adult.

    Is Supercoat OK? It was $29 for 12kg which I thought was a pretty decent price as I figure I will go through about 2 bags a month once the puppy is off the puppy food. Is there something a fair bit better without being 2 or 3 times as expensive like all the others I see recommended, as I have had dogs all my life raised as per my parents on a mixture of canned, meat roll and dry food and they have all lived long full lives and been beautiful animals.

    Its only after reading through all these forums that people say how bad it all is and all that jazz.

    Any tips you can offer me on raising the pup would be awesome!


    huh.. you dont want to spend a fortune on food for your dogs....... makes me wonder if your willing to spend a fortune on basic & necessary vet costs too.......



    I cant offer advice on commercial dog foods as i don't believe in them & refuse to feed inferior foods to my dogs.
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    The best diet for your pup is to continue what she was being fed before you got her. Then you can gradually introduce new foods to change her diet to what you wish to. My pups were weaned onto supercoat puppy, and a slurry of minced meat in the formula. By 8 weeks they were eating chicken wings, sardines, raw egg in the supercoat as well as beef or lamb bones. Mine are now 8 months old and are fed adult supercoat and a feed of raw food a day with the sardines, egg weekly for their coats.

    This link may help you.

    Home-Guidelines For New Puppy Owners

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    it depends on what you want to feed... ideally a raw diet is best you can google raw or BARF diets to get an idea on what they consist of.. but if you want to feed commercial then sure supercoat isnt bad...its not the best..but it isnt bad... especially if you feed chicken necks or de-boned fish once or twice a week as well... as for your pup she is very very young so i would be talking to your vet about what you should be feeding and how often
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    She is booked next week for her first vaccination and vet consultation so I will ask them there what to feed her on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Floyd View Post
    huh.. you dont want to spend a fortune on food for your dogs....... makes me wonder if your willing to spend a fortune on basic & necessary vet costs too.......


    I cant offer advice on commercial dog foods as i don't believe in them & refuse to feed inferior foods to my dogs.

    Yes because the only people who can own dogs should be the people who can afford well over $100 per bag or afford fresh meat all the time. No offence but I don't want to hear any elitist crap about how nothing you can buy at a supermarket will do because I've never had a problem with any of my dogs growing up that my parents fed canned/commercial food. I just thought I would try and do it a different/better way this time.

    Its not about spending the money on the dog its about not wasting my money and being smart about how I spend it.

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    I know what the OP means to a certain extent. My old lab, Holly, was fed on a premium kibble her whole (short ) life. Maybe her illness had nothing to do with the food, I don't know but it did make me wonder.

    Also I remember reading a thread on a different forum about dogs who lived to a ripe old age and what they were fed on. Now admittedly, because of the time periods involved, the premium kibbles had probably not been around, so not an option, but it was enlightening to read about all these dogs living well into their teens fed on Supermarket tins and kibble and food scraps.

    It did make me wonder if we're all being taken for a ride with the whole 'premium kibble' marketing. Not saying we are, but it got me thinking.

    Jenna and Mya were on Eukanuba but Mya is a fussy eater and really didn't like it. We changed over to Nutro which was better for a while but then she went off that. I then decided to try Supercoat and, guess what? She loves it. I'm not entirely happy because her poos are a bit soft, but if she eats, and is thriving, I guess i can put up with some softer poos.

    I would like to stress though that I do not feed entirely kibble. If I were I would probably stick with the premiums. They have raw for breakfast - Chicken necks, wings, sardines, lamb off cuts (trimmed of fat), beef cheeks, lambs liver, beef mince (cheapest human grade variety). All these types of meat are pretty cheap but I won't buy the dog mince, just don't trust what's gone into it).

    So, I believe it is possible to feed your dog a good diet without spending a fortune, unnecessarily.
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    We used to also let our pups go at 6 weeks, but the laws have changed now in Australia.

    However that besides the point for your puppy now.

    If it were me regardless of the price I'd keep the puppy on the food the breeder has had it on. After a couple of weeks in your home on the same food if you like slowly change the diet to one of your choice.

    My adult dogs have had Supercoat from time to time but because it does not have a high enough fat content for my breed they are never on it for long.

    I also feed raw meat. I like the hamburger mince because it's high in fat and my dogs digest fat well and require it for body condition. Finding a diet that suits your breed and your dog can take a little while. Mine thrive on Pro Plan Advance but I wouldn't say it's cheap.

    Bear in mind that your puppy will have only just had it first vaccination and coverage takes 2 weeks. So for a young puppy just after it's first vaccination I would change nothing regardless of price for the time being.

    At 6 wks old my puppies were also having Divetalac which is a milk replacement poured over the top of their biscuits which was Advance Rehydratable Puppy Kibble & raw meaty bones in their pen.

    Hopefully your other dog is good with puppies and it can continue it socialisation which is the main reason together with the vaccination coverage that it is now law for puppies to stay with the litter until 8 wks old.

    Puppy pre-school, which is run out of vet clinics mostly is another way for your puppy to continue it's socialisation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkay View Post
    It did make me wonder if we're all being taken for a ride with the whole 'premium kibble' marketing. Not saying we are, but it got me thinking.

    So, I believe it is possible to feed your dog a good diet without spending a fortune, unnecessarily.
    Thanks for understanding where I was coming from. Growing up, dad always fed our dogs on supermarket cans, dinner scraps and a weekly treat of chicken necks/frames/etc. Every dog we have owned has lived into its teens. Most recently our Ridgeback X which we had to put to sleep about 1.5yr ago lived til he was almost 16, surviving through testicular cancer & arthritis all on dads trusty supermarket diet!


    I'm going to continue feeding the pup on the breeders food for a month or so. I'm heading off to the pet store now to pick up some supplies. What would be the best meaty bones to get her at this age?

    The hardest part I'm having is trying to toilet train her and feed her while the other dog is hopping around all excited!

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    As long as the bones are big enough not to be swallowed whole. Especially as you have another dog around which may increase it's need to gobble things down.

    I find a crate a good place to feed puppy, especially as at this age your puppy will be eating several times/day and the older dog will not. Separating into the laundry or bathroom or simply putting one or the other out while puppy is eating is also another option.

    Before I let my last litter of puppies socialise with the older dogs I would take the older dogs for a good walk so their energy levels were a bit calmer.

    Toilet training is a matter of routine. If you can't watch puppy put it outside.
    Limit the areas it has access to. At this age it's bladder is very small and it has no control. So out to the garden when it wakes from sleep, after meals, after playing, basically every hour, when you see it circles or sniffing.

    There are plenty of threads on toilet training already regarding putting toileting on cue etc you might like to read thru them.

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